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Re: The Chinese media model

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Speaking of propaganda, can we talk about how good the movies Wolf Warrior and Wolf Warrior 2 is? Both films feature Chinese military protagonists and both films feature western villains. These films remind me of Rambo even including the jingoistic pro-nation-of-origin message. I think the international market accepted Rambo because they thought USA was cool. I wonder if we will find ourselves consuming “Chinakana” (…

I've only watched the trailer but I liked the part where the protagonist forces the tank to stop by standing in front of it, a bit like the famous tank man picture

Re: The Chinese media model

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I'm always amused by the indignation expressed by people when some nation other than their own is shown to be using their resources to to exert international influence. The British Empire did. The USSR did. The United States does. Of course China does too.

Right but not all reflect the same principles. If you want to jump on the China principles bandwagon that’s your right, but you have to realize the principles allow for different outcomes, some more or less universal or inclusive or exclusive. Put another way, would you propose the US (or Europe) adopt Chinese styled principles and use their influence to project them? Would that be a good thing?

The British' principles gave us the Kashmir/Pakistani conflict, and (coupled with France and various other European nations) numerous civil wars across Africa.

The US' principles gave us decades of corruption and drug trade in South America.

The USSR's principles gave us the iron curtain, and the Afghan and Czechen rebellions.

I'm sure there's nuances all around, but let's not pretend the previous perpetrators were a shining beacon of morality.

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I'm always amused by the indignation expressed by people when some nation other than their own is shown to be using their resources to to exert international influence. The British Empire did. The USSR did. The United States does. Of course China does too.

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I think Internet has become the easiest way to spread propoganda. China is not the only one doing this.

It's so easy to spread ideas using Internet these days, that almost all business, political and social entities around the world are involved in the spreading whatever ideas they deem worthy.

The bigger entities are able to spread them more effectively which is expected.

Internet may eventually turn out to be a bigger monster for modern human civilization than other threats in the past like World Wars and Cold War.

Re: The Chinese media model

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Speaking of propaganda, can we talk about how good the movies Wolf Warrior and Wolf Warrior 2 is? Both films feature Chinese military protagonists and both films feature western villains. These films remind me of Rambo even including the jingoistic pro-nation-of-origin message. I think the international market accepted Rambo because they thought USA was cool. I wonder if we will find ourselves consuming “Chinakana” (…

Rambo isn't pro-USA is it? Surely It's the story of man fucked over by his country, and the opposite of what you're saying?

The original Rambo film is a remarkably thoughtful study of the challenges Vietnam veterans faced reintegrating into society, including a look inside PTSD (the book even more so than the film... the book was commonly included in high school history and civics courses in the decade after it was written). The sequels, which are the films best remembered today, were of course nothing but pure adrenaline rides with nothing to recommend them, but don't taint the original film with the sins of its sequels. Even the portrayal of the "evil" small town sheriff Rambo battles is remarkably interesting and nuanced. Yes, it's still a popcorn film, but it's one of the most thoughtful and intelligent action films you're likely to find (there is much more than meets the eye in Sylvester Stallone, writer of both the original Rambo script and the Rocky script).

Re: The Chinese media model

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Speaking of propaganda, can we talk about how good the movies Wolf Warrior and Wolf Warrior 2 is? Both films feature Chinese military protagonists and both films feature western villains. These films remind me of Rambo even including the jingoistic pro-nation-of-origin message. I think the international market accepted Rambo because they thought USA was cool. I wonder if we will find ourselves consuming “Chinakana” (…

Rambo isn't pro-USA is it? Surely It's the story of man fucked over by his country, and the opposite of what you're saying?

Rambo is a case of dramatic irony which has backfired such that the deeper, satirical meaning has been lost on the audience. This may have to do with the problem that the original film, First Blood, was way less popular than the sequels and that those films dialed up the violence to ridiculous levels, making it harder for the audience to see the original message.

Re: The Chinese media model

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I think Internet has become the easiest way to spread propoganda. China is not the only one doing this. It's so easy to spread ideas using Internet these days, that almost all business, political and social entities around the world are involved in the spreading whatever ideas they deem worthy. The bigger entities are able to spread them more effectively which is expected. Internet may eventually turn out to be a big…

Easy to spread but easy to ignore. The internet cheapened communications to the point where propaganda has about the same worth as cat memes.
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