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Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

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> In order to be vetted as an individual critic, you should meet the following guidelines: Written > • Consistent output for a minimum of two years. > • Demonstrated film/TV coverage at a publication outside of a self-published website. If you are a self-publishing critic, your reviews should reflect our key values. Having journalist rate other journalists won't serve as a good filter on the actual quality of reporti…

With Metacritic, it's been clear that the professionals do a much worse job than the regular users. Even the Oscars have poor correlation with movie quality, in my opinion. A lot of it ends up too pretentious.

What if Daily Mail suddenly has a great article like they occasionally do? Many professional critics still wouldn't give it a good review because their reputation and careers are at stake.

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I place no value in review aggregators. They don't tell you anything useful. It's much better to find your own individual sources that you can trust over time, and they can earn or lose reputation with you based on the quality of their reporting. This isn't limited to news.

I definitely don't trust a consensus of journalists to tell me a study is misinterpreted.

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Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.”

In RTs case, "Top" means films no one dislikes it and everybody thought it was at the very least OK. The "problem" with genuinely great films is that they can often be divisive and challenging and generate a lot of strong opinions in both directions, and thus they'll never rate as well on RT.

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Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

This is because films with more ratings are rated higher. Older films have far fewer ratings by critics, same with smaller films. Add on the fact that each critic's review is distilled to a positive/negative boolean value, and it's clear to see why RT's best films is really just a list of films they are confident you'll like.

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT's model prioritizes consensus in quality instead of brilliance. Using RT for a best of list will give you good safe movies instead of outstanding ones. I'd say it's a good model for news.

... except that most of the news that actually matters is 'outstanding' rather than 'good and safe'

Actually, most of your news consumption should be of the 'good and safe' variety. That is an absolutely necessary requirement for you to properly evaluate 'oustanding and unsafe' news.

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Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

What a weird list with few selections between 1970 and 2015.

Their "adjusted score" means that films with more ratings are rated higher. Older films have far fewer ratings by critics, same with smaller films.

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Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

RT is optimized to filter out bad movies (hence the name). The system doesn't work well for "best movies", but does great at telling me what movies shouldn't be watched on a date.

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post #7

Taking a look at the Rotten Tomatoes “Top 100 Films of All Time” list [1], I’m not exactly sure why it’s a model to be replicated. It’s extremely obvious that “top” means “popular and/or most advertised.” [1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/

What a weird list with few selections between 1970 and 2015.

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