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Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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Well the ease of use sure wasn't their selling point. The only decent Atlassian product is Bitbucket...and they bought it and made it worse. Trendy design, too much configurability, and an "Enterprise" user base. If I could, I wouldn't use any Atlassian software.

Came here looking for this comment. There was a time where their product was a selling point.

Bugzilla -> Redmine -> Jira -> Trello/Asana -> Gitlab -> ...

I'd say things are slowly getting better.

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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One of my most important takeaways from patio11’s list of thing you need to know ( https://mobile.twitter.com/patio11/status/936615043126370306... ) was that for B2B companies sales to engineering ratio is at least 2x and usually much larger because that’s the bottleneck. Atlas Siam is no exception.

Nice. Here's a thread-reader-app mirror: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/936615043126370306.html

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

#13

Well the ease of use sure wasn't their selling point. The only decent Atlassian product is Bitbucket...and they bought it and made it worse. Trendy design, too much configurability, and an "Enterprise" user base. If I could, I wouldn't use any Atlassian software.

JIRA was fine. The recent UI changes are taking big steps backwards in both performance and usability. At least there is more white space on the screen now...

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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The math on this confuses me. If they have 125,000 customers and are worth $20,000,000,000... investors are valuing each individual customer as being worth $160,000. There's gotta be a typo in there somewhere, right?

The market value of a company is (in theory) the sum of the lifetime value of all of the customers. No idea what Atlassian's ACV is but $160K is $30K/year over five years (not a crazy estimate for the lifetime of line of business software in an organization). However, investors also care about growth and Atlassian grew subscription revenue 64% from FY17 to FY18.

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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Atlassian get away with their awful software because there is no decent competition.

Rather than moonshots from Google, or free internet from Facebook, or even buying a football team; somebody putting their hand in their pocket and funding a decent, modern Agile software suite that is GPL would make the world a far better place than it is now.

Nobody I know likes Jira. The rest of the Atlassian suite is a dumpster fire. Jira itself is hated by everybody, but we learn to tolerate it.

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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Well the ease of use sure wasn't their selling point. The only decent Atlassian product is Bitbucket...and they bought it and made it worse. Trendy design, too much configurability, and an "Enterprise" user base. If I could, I wouldn't use any Atlassian software.

Confluence is a pretty nice product.

Re: Atlassian built a $20B dollar company with no sales team

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Atlassian get away with their awful software because there is no decent competition. Rather than moonshots from Google, or free internet from Facebook, or even buying a football team; somebody putting their hand in their pocket and funding a decent, modern Agile software suite that is GPL would make the world a far better place than it is now. Nobody I know likes Jira. The rest of the Atlassian suite is a dumpster fi…

> Atlassian get away with their awful software because there is no decent competition.

There was/is competition for nearly every atlassian product, they were all worse, at least at the time atlassian surpassed them. Having used many of them, I love jira.

> modern Agile software suite that is GPL would make the world a far better place than it is now.

What feature do you want? There are a lot of open source alternatives.

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