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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

#11

I knew of that 9 months ago, but nobody was interested so I dropped it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17329825

The ask hacker news section isn't really a good avenue for discussion unless it's a general topic like:What's a good framework? or Give me an easy idea to make money.

Best thing to do would have been to contact tech sites with the info. Like The register would definitely do an article about it.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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If it was the Chinese who were trying to spy, it'd be pretty dumb to use a .cn URL isn't it? Seems to support the US paranoia about Chinese gear and if proven as known evil, doesn't help huawei's 5g aspirations...

The Chinese don't have to be covert about their tracking activities. It's part of their society, and everyone (at least outside of China) is aware of it, and nobody inside of China is allowed to talk about it.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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post #7

Nokia is just a name on the phone. The trademark licensee is HMD Global while engineering and manufacturing has been outsourced to Foxconn, a Chinese company.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company

Edit: I am not disputing the "One China Principle". The fact remains that Taiwan is self-governed.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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post #11

I knew of that 9 months ago, but nobody was interested so I dropped it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17329825

The ask hacker news section isn't really a good avenue for discussion unless it's a general topic like:What's a good framework? or Give me an easy idea to make money. Best thing to do would have been to contact tech sites with the info. Like The register would definitely do an article about it.

> The ask hacker news section isn't really a good avenue for discussion

I think "Tell HN:" is for such cases, but it's just not as popular.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Very nice of the Chinese military to choose a .cn domain so even the Norwegians can see what is going on ...

It is obviously a bug / lazy programmer / broken project management. A phone with most of it components bought from China and in one of the many configurations just copied from the supplier's examples there was an URL which was supposed to be changed but didn't.

In other words - a non-story or at most a story about quality issues at the reborn Nokia.

But luckily the URL pointed to China ... so we can make the story about that ... with a big red communist flag, talk about mass surveilliance, human rights, future invasions and so on ...

I don't really think this is because of racism; I mostly just think it is because we are idiots that prefer big hyperboles rather than simple explanations of non-issues.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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If it was the Chinese who were trying to spy, it'd be pretty dumb to use a .cn URL isn't it? Seems to support the US paranoia about Chinese gear and if proven as known evil, doesn't help huawei's 5g aspirations...

The Chinese don't have to be covert about their tracking activities. It's part of their society, and everyone (at least outside of China) is aware of it, and nobody inside of China is allowed to talk about it.

People inside China are very aware of it; most just don't care that much. They (willingly, if not happily) trade what westerners might consider pillars of freedom for widespread prosperity.

When you consider the progress China has made over the last 50 years from the perspective of a typical Chinese citizen, you can see why they make that bargain.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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I've never understood the cognitive dissonance here... People who should know better are shocked to find that their non Freedom respecting device does not respect their Freedom.

Modern smartphones are mini pocket computers. Computers that don't respect your Freedom and that you don't have full control over. You cannot audit what the device is doing. You feed it masses of personal data and put faith into all the various people involved in it (from chip manufacturer to network provider).

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