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Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by BossingAround » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:02 PM UTC

Huh... The title of their press release seems to me somewhat clickbait-y... Why not 'iMac got a hardware refresh; now with 2x performance'? When I read this, I thought, 'oh wow, Apple really outdid itself with their SW optimisations'.

Overall, I'm kinda disappointed that the 21' and 27' macs get different CPU gens. Why? Why not just have the latest gen in both of them? Is it price, or is it more about artificial performance impediment?

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by kowdermeister » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:02 PM UTC

educationdata wrote: post #8

When will they produce an Ultra-wide (21:9) screen iMac?

Once they figured out how to make it sound like a new revolutionary thing :)

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by fiblye » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:02 PM UTC

Bought my iMac 7 years ago with 8GB as the default memory option and a 1TB fusion drive.

And here we are, nearly a decade later. Still 8 GB in the newest models. Still 1 TB fusion drives. GPUs haven't even seemed to take a jump over last year's models.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by jandrese » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:02 PM UTC

The Vega 48 GPU seems disappointing for a machine that expensive.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by tsmarsh » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:03 PM UTC

bluedino wrote: post #3

The CPU increases are welcome, but I was hoping for the rumored 6K displays. No space grey, no T2 chip, no Touchbar. Somehow they still sell the 1080 21" model for $1099.

No touch bar is a win IMHO. I'm not against it per se, but a soft `esc` was a mistake.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by BossingAround » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:03 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

This has been the case ever since I can remember. When I was buying a MBP in 2012, this was the case as well. Of course, at that time, you could say 'screw it' and buy your own ram stick. Good ol' times. Nowadays, Apple is just not worth it (especially in Europe).

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by kmlx » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:04 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

isn't the RAM soldered in on iMacs?

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by vbezhenar » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:04 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #4

The price for upgrading remains as ridiculous as ever (especially if you're not in the US). RAM: 8 GB -> 16 GB is 2200 SEK (239 USD) 8 GB -> 32 GB is 6600 SEK (717 USD) You can get 32GB as low as 1689 SEK (183 USD) on Newegg.

Those price have nothing in common with logic. 16 -> 32: +$400, 32 -> 64: +$400. They just put random prices based on marketing research, not on component cost.

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by bluedino » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:06 PM UTC

BossingAround wrote: post #11

Huh... The title of their press release seems to me somewhat clickbait-y... Why not 'iMac got a hardware refresh; now with 2x performance'? When I read this, I thought, 'oh wow, Apple really outdid itself with their SW optimisations'. Overall, I'm kinda disappointed that the 21' and 27' macs get different CPU gens. Why? Why not just have the latest gen in both of them? Is it price, or is it more about artificial perf…

have you never seen an apple press release? Every product is 2x as fast as the old one, based on a cherry picked benchmark

Re: Apple updates its iMac line

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Post by klodolph » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:06 PM UTC

BossingAround wrote: post #11

Huh... The title of their press release seems to me somewhat clickbait-y... Why not 'iMac got a hardware refresh; now with 2x performance'? When I read this, I thought, 'oh wow, Apple really outdid itself with their SW optimisations'. Overall, I'm kinda disappointed that the 21' and 27' macs get different CPU gens. Why? Why not just have the latest gen in both of them? Is it price, or is it more about artificial perf…

To me, it makes no sense that only the latest CPU generation should be used in new hardware. It’s not like the latest generation is a big improvement, not since the 2000s or so, and older CPUs are cheaper to manufacture (because problems in the manufacturing process have been fixed)