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KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Why do people still use the "play store" when other repositories like f-droid are arguably better and perfectly available? This is beyond me. The terms of service of the google play store are callous and unacceptable.

It's on every android device by default; to use any other repository you have to 1) know it exists and 2) know how to get it.

Even if 2) does not require rooting your device or voiding warranty it's 1) that damps on the spread of the alternatives, because people in general don't know they have a choice; because they don't look for the alternative as the problem of "how do I get the apps?" is solved for them right at the start.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Believe it or not, Joe public hasn't heard of f-droid. Google Play is the app store for most android users (at least in the west).

This is KDE Connect, not Snapchat. Joe Linuxonthedesktop has definitely heard of F-Droid.

Speaking as a KDE Connect user who's heard of F-Droid, I installed F-Droid, then deinstalled it. It was too noisy and intrusive. When I told it I didn't want to replace an app with its version it kept asking again and again, every day at least.

Since then I've head that the F-Droid operators insist on signing all apps themselves, instead of the developers' signature. That's as bad as the TLS inteceptors that insist on accepting an extra CA.

Some people seem to think that F-Droid is obviously preferable to Googleplay. That is, at the very least, not obvious.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Believe it or not, Joe public hasn't heard of f-droid. Google Play is the app store for most android users (at least in the west).

This is KDE Connect, not Snapchat. Joe Linuxonthedesktop has definitely heard of F-Droid.

I'm a linux user, I've never heard of it and the friction would make me hesitate

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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A couple weeks ago Google removed one of my apps for the same violation. I rebuilt the same application with the SMS feature removed and the Play Store Developer Console was very unclear and buggy on how to resolve the issue and get my app out of the rejected status. I spent the better part of 2 hours just to get everything up and running again and it's frustrating to know that you cannot easily contact anyone @ Goog…

The #1 reason I do not recommend Google to work with for anybody. The users are just accidental for them.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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post #4

Why do people still use the "play store" when other repositories like f-droid are arguably better and perfectly available? This is beyond me. The terms of service of the google play store are callous and unacceptable.

Because my mom is not an Android hacker.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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And google is supposed to launch a gaming console today that streams from the cloud. It's bound to generate a ton of support cases, I wonder how they will handle that. I also wonder how they deal with the countries that require a publicly listed phone number and address to be able to contact them.

They'll suggest you use a community forum, and that forum will be full of people who love the product and the company and who have never seen your bug and who will tell you you're holding it wrong or that you're lying about the product and you must be a shil from that other company.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is KDE Connect, not Snapchat. Joe Linuxonthedesktop has definitely heard of F-Droid.

Speaking as a KDE Connect user who's heard of F-Droid, I installed F-Droid, then deinstalled it. It was too noisy and intrusive. When I told it I didn't want to replace an app with its version it kept asking again and again, every day at least. Since then I've head that the F-Droid operators insist on signing all apps themselves, instead of the developers' signature. That's as bad as the TLS inteceptors that insist o…

Fdroid maintainers require shipped apk's to have 0 non-free components. The only way to ensure that is to build the apps themselves (so that they can verify code and control dependencies). This means that they can only use their own keys.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Why do people still use the "play store" when other repositories like f-droid are arguably better and perfectly available? This is beyond me. The terms of service of the google play store are callous and unacceptable.

It's on every android device by default; to use any other repository you have to 1) know it exists and 2) know how to get it. Even if 2) does not require rooting your device or voiding warranty it's 1) that damps on the spread of the alternatives, because people in general don't know they have a choice; because they don't look for the alternative as the problem of "how do I get the apps?" is solved for them right at…

> it’s on every android device by default

Amazon tablets do not have the Google Play store.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is KDE Connect, not Snapchat. Joe Linuxonthedesktop has definitely heard of F-Droid.

Speaking as a KDE Connect user who's heard of F-Droid, I installed F-Droid, then deinstalled it. It was too noisy and intrusive. When I told it I didn't want to replace an app with its version it kept asking again and again, every day at least. Since then I've head that the F-Droid operators insist on signing all apps themselves, instead of the developers' signature. That's as bad as the TLS inteceptors that insist o…

> Since then I've head that the F-Droid operators insist on signing all apps themselves, instead of the developers' signature.

They do reproducible builds starting from publicly available source. Given the AOSP design where code signatures are mandatory and updates are only allowed if signed by the same key, they're taking the best feasible approach.

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