It still blows my mind that I used to make plans with friends to go see a movie a week in advance and everyone would just show up.
Before the Internet (2017)
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#12What a lovely piece!
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#13It still blows my mind that I used to make plans with friends to go see a movie a week in advance and everyone would just show up.
I struggle to remember precisely how we did .. I know we did.. I know it involved theater programs and phoning .. but the concrete memory is gone as if it was fantasy
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#14Before the internet, parents of children with rare diseases watched them die without a doctor ever believing them. Before the internet, gay kids committed suicide, never even knowing how they felt was normal for some other people far away from their small town. Before the internet, if your county library didn't have it, it didn't exist. Before the internet, you had 3 TV channels, and you watched what the advertisers…
> Before the internet, if your county library didn't have it, it didn't exist. Inter-library loans existed long before the internet. > Before the internet, you had 3 TV channels, and you watched what the advertisers would pay for, not what you were curious about. Cable TV with lots of channels existed long before streaming video was available on the web. Also, you could rent videos at Blockbuster (or borrow them for…
I wonder how book search systems were used, surely large library indexes existed but how efficient and how often they'd be used..
In a way, book searching is probably the only cool thing about internet IMO. The rest was already nice enough as it was. You don't need ultra high bandwidth and ultra low latency to find a VHS for a night with friends... it won't make the memories better.
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#15Slightly off topic, but I've had a print subscription to The New Yorker for many years and I always read the Shouts & Murmurs satire pieces and the absolute most riotously funny one I've read is "Sunday Routine" by Jen Spyra:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/03/07/sunday-routine
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Before the internet, if your county library didn't have it, it didn't exist. Inter-library loans existed long before the internet. > Before the internet, you had 3 TV channels, and you watched what the advertisers would pay for, not what you were curious about. Cable TV with lots of channels existed long before streaming video was available on the web. Also, you could rent videos at Blockbuster (or borrow them for…
> Inter-library loans existed long before the internet. And used bookstores. I loved those. You could find anything .
You could find anything, but mostly by chance. Looking for a particular thing was hard.
And, of course, you had to allocate 2-3 hours for the adventure, and traveling there and back again.
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> Inter-library loans existed long before the internet. And used bookstores. I loved those. You could find anything .
You could find anything , but mostly by chance. Looking for a particular thing was hard. And, of course, you had to allocate 2-3 hours for the adventure, and traveling there and back again.
Sure, but people spend at least that much time browsing random stuff. Also, many stores did organize their collections, at least somewhat.
When I was ~13, discovering New York City, I found a copy of Fortunes in Formulas for Home, Farm, and Workshop. And an ad in a comic book for a chemical company in Texas that sold fireworks supplies. Years of fun followed.
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#18It still blows my mind that I used to make plans with friends to go see a movie a week in advance and everyone would just show up.
I struggle to remember precisely how we did .. I know we did.. I know it involved theater programs and phoning .. but the concrete memory is gone as if it was fantasy
There were these things called newspapers. They ran theater ads, at least a week in advance.
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#19I loved reading this! 'Before the internet' pretty much coincides with 'when I was a kid' for me. I would love to hear 'before the internet' memories from people who were adults before the internet too.
Here's one from the "damn, that sucked" side: literature research. I spent days in libraries, digging through various indexes (that is, lots of large and heavy books) and taking notes. Then finding journals, and making copies on temperamental photocopy machines. Or "printing" from microfilm. And requesting stuff through inter-library loan.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Before the internet, if your county library didn't have it, it didn't exist. Inter-library loans existed long before the internet. > Before the internet, you had 3 TV channels, and you watched what the advertisers would pay for, not what you were curious about. Cable TV with lots of channels existed long before streaming video was available on the web. Also, you could rent videos at Blockbuster (or borrow them for…
I wonder how book search systems were used, surely large library indexes existed but how efficient and how often they'd be used.. In a way, book searching is probably the only cool thing about internet IMO. The rest was already nice enough as it was. You don't need ultra high bandwidth and ultra low latency to find a VHS for a night with friends... it won't make the memories better.
Without the Internet: between rentals, purchases, and the library, more than enough media to keep me 100% happy and occupied my entire life for very little money.
With the Internet: Same but now I have way more than I need rather than just more than I need, to the point that picking something to enjoy is kinda hard because there's so much and it's all about equally hard to get—i.e. not hard—all the time. Total expense kinda high, actually, since you can't reduce the base cost of Internet access by checking more movies out from the library, even if you manage to replace Netflix and friends—to use it at all, there's a high monthly price, so if you occasionally need it for work or whatever you're just stuck.
Also, for those who didn't grow up without the Internet, here's a fun one: passing thoughts about trivia didn't used to bug us. In fact they'd often not even reach the level of conscious thought. It was difficult enough to find out the answers to "when was that actor born?" or "who produced [album you don't have on hand]?" that we just... didn't even think about it, most of the time. If we did and no-one within yelling distance knew the answer and there wasn't a relevant coffee table book around to consult, that was it, rarely did anyone go to the effort to find out or feel any kind of nagging sensation that they really ought to go look that up. In short, it was wonderful.
For those who didn't grow up without smartphones (they're old enough to be on here now!): we used to often do one thing at a time, not one thing plus being on our phones. Oh and kids—even ones old enough that they all have their own cell phones now, like 8 or 9 years old—used to just have to find something to do if they got dragged somewhere by their parents and got bored. Usually games with other kids around, if there were any. The games would be imagination-based or use improvised playing equipment—cup ball, for instance, which was like baseball but with a wadded up cardboard concession cup for a ball, and makeshift bases. Seriously.