The case is strong with this one!
Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
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Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#12Sorry, did Stallman started using a live web browser already?
His positions are extremist and I don't know what's gained by divulging them
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#13I consider it responsible Capitalism to not buy products from Apple, AT&T, BP, etc...
Apple has not been pro consumer or pro developer in my lifetime. They do advertise a lot.
Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily just big corporations. https://stallman.org/pay-toilets.html
Regarding his argument against paid toilets: can’t this be said about any other basic neccesity? I.e. don’t pay for food, because some people can’t afford it - so food should be free.
What's interesting about stallman is that he is zealous about his philosophy, but like all philosophies, his philosophy is inconsistent when you take it to its logical extremes. (See the paradox of closed source microwaves). Stallman's philosophy is a veneer over utilitarianism and assumption that the computer is a unique construct in society -- software should be libre because libre software provides the most value to the most people due to the 0 marginal cost of software, even if it's less profitable to the creators, and even this claim is not quite true due to the security benefits of closed platforms and the virtuous cycle of profit motive motivating people to work harder to produce more. It makes sense when you consider that Stallman formed his views when he was working at MIT, with his material support from donations from people who made their money not from free software, or who shared such donations with him. The economics of his philosophy are tainted by that foundational flaw.
Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#15Sorry, did Stallman started using a live web browser already? His positions are extremist and I don't know what's gained by divulging them
Huh? I do not believe he is incorrect about this, but you do, so what is he incorrect about exactly?
Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#16I consider it responsible Capitalism to not buy products from Apple, AT&T, BP, etc... Apple has not been pro consumer or pro developer in my lifetime. They do advertise a lot.
It’s unclear what you mean by this, or what you are using as the criteria for being a pro consumer.
Their stance on user privacy, especially with iPhone in comparison to android, is certainly a good example of very pro consumer attitudes.
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#17Surprised Spotify's antitrust claims are not mentioned there Edit: All right so this website is meant to make a library of opposition against big corporations. I understand now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman Stallman has been the leading proponent of software freedom for many, many decades. He isn't inherently against big corps, he is against what a lot of big corps do.
Can anyone on HN explain why software freedom could ever be a bad thing?
IE: I only see it as Apple having extreme upfront costs, keeping poor people away from developing.
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#18I disagree with the bullets about banning/censoring apps.
There are ways to install and run software on iOS without using the AppStore. If developers share source code, people are free to compile and install it using Xcode. It’s also possible to run Python programs using Pythonista. Finally, programs can be run as JavaScript in Safari.
Apple definitely controls the AppStore. That makes it less convenient to install programs than on GNU/Linux, but the freedom is still there. And maybe the added steps mean the people who choose to run code via Xcode, Pythonista, or JavaScript are more likely to understand the risks of running that code.
Edit: Posted incomplete comment on the first try. Also wanted to add that I look up to Stallman as a role model and advocate for open source & contributing back to open source.
Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#19I would like to see the same details about google / android and microsoft / windows from the author of this comprehensive list. And his conclusion what to use as an OS considering all.
He has more "what's bad about" various companies (and pay toilets). ;)
Re: Reasons Not to Use Apple (2018)
#20Sorry, did Stallman started using a live web browser already? His positions are extremist and I don't know what's gained by divulging them
Huh? I do not believe he is incorrect about this, but you do, so what is he incorrect about exactly?
A lot of the arguments in this list are very one-sided, and seem to ignore things Apple has done that are directly contrary to the point he’s trying to make.