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There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by projectramo »

pjc50 wrote: post #4

It's interesting to see how the predictions have diverged. Internet penetration into "gallery art" basically hasn't happened at all. Cynical people would say this is because it's unrelated to artistic value and mostly a complex sort of money transfer that absolutely requires unique physical objects. Small-scale sponsored art through Patreon is huge though, with a large NSFW component. Kickstarter enables people to do…

I think you have to wait for people who encountered meaningful art right around the time they hit puberty (say 12-14) to grow into rich adults for whom it held special value (say 40s). So I would say 30 years.

Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by dpacmittal »

bellerose wrote: post #8

I'm aware of ridiculous money payed towards artists online creating furry art. This specific subculture is the highest paying to artists that I'm aware of and for artists to trade their time for creating an image the client desires. The amount payed is apparently enough for artists to live while satisfying their clients. The clients will typically post the finished work online for everyone.

You mean furry porn?

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Post by downer52 »

dpacmittal wrote: post #12
bellerose wrote: post #8

I'm aware of ridiculous money payed towards artists online creating furry art. This specific subculture is the highest paying to artists that I'm aware of and for artists to trade their time for creating an image the client desires. The amount payed is apparently enough for artists to live while satisfying their clients. The clients will typically post the finished work online for everyone.

You mean furry porn?

I think he means "money laundering" not unlike savewalterwhite.com.

Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by Qwertystop »

dpacmittal wrote: post #12
bellerose wrote: post #8

I'm aware of ridiculous money payed towards artists online creating furry art. This specific subculture is the highest paying to artists that I'm aware of and for artists to trade their time for creating an image the client desires. The amount payed is apparently enough for artists to live while satisfying their clients. The clients will typically post the finished work online for everyone.

You mean furry porn?

Not all of it is. I don't have the experience to know whether most of it is (neither sort is something I go looking for, I just see what incidentally pops up in various timelines), but there's definitely a significant amount of entirely chaste work out there.

Though also, frankly, so what if it is? They want something drawn and they're willing to pay what it's worth. Too many people aren't, these days.

Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by mistrial9 »

projectramo wrote: post #11
pjc50 wrote: post #4

It's interesting to see how the predictions have diverged. Internet penetration into "gallery art" basically hasn't happened at all. Cynical people would say this is because it's unrelated to artistic value and mostly a complex sort of money transfer that absolutely requires unique physical objects. Small-scale sponsored art through Patreon is huge though, with a large NSFW component. Kickstarter enables people to do…

I think you have to wait for people who encountered meaningful art right around the time they hit puberty (say 12-14) to grow into rich adults for whom it held special value (say 40s). So I would say 30 years.

ordinary time and attention scales are now broken -- we live in a tornado of information that is literally unprecedented.. in other words, dont hold your breath for this 30 years thing.. its not happening

Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by have_faith »

Zofren wrote: post #10
have_faith wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Internet art will always be ephemeral. Protocols will eventually change, technologies evolve. You can't put your piece of internet art in your archives and wait for the value to go up. There's also just the barrier to entry on how you explain ownership of a piece of art that can be copy and pasted. I definitely sit more on the cynical side, but only because I think the art world is mostly as you say, a complex money…

I disagree with the implied notion here that Internet art is any more ephemeral than physical art. Physical art, whether it be a statue or a painting, will eventually need to be preserved and maintained to ensure it is available for future generations. Transferring a digital art file to a different media or changing the storage protocol or making backups in case of data loss is just another form of art preservation.

The key difference being I guess that preserving digital art usually involves making copies and backups as opposed to there being a single-source-of-truth so to speak like the physical world. I think this is the major factor contributing to a lack of digital art in modern collections, it's just too easy to copy.

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Post by some_furry »

dpacmittal wrote: post #12
bellerose wrote: post #8

I'm aware of ridiculous money payed towards artists online creating furry art. This specific subculture is the highest paying to artists that I'm aware of and for artists to trade their time for creating an image the client desires. The amount payed is apparently enough for artists to live while satisfying their clients. The clients will typically post the finished work online for everyone.

You mean furry porn?

Nope! They meant furry art.

Re: There May Be Money in Internet Art After All (1999)

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Post by some_furry »

bellerose wrote: post #8

I'm aware of ridiculous money payed towards artists online creating furry art. This specific subculture is the highest paying to artists that I'm aware of and for artists to trade their time for creating an image the client desires. The amount payed is apparently enough for artists to live while satisfying their clients. The clients will typically post the finished work online for everyone.

Most of my friends (tech workers in the furry fandom) also go out of their way to tip artists they enjoy working with, often up to 100% of the asking price for a commission.

We're trying to put an end to the "starving artist" stereotype in furry.

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