I support these articles, not because they are a good idea, but because i hope the backlash against them will go to the root of the issue, the concept of intelectual property
European Parliament Approves Controversial “Meme Ban”
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#12I must be misunderstanding this. People are supposed to pay for the privilege of potentially driving traffic to a site that features ads? Is the reasoning that aggregators could just summarize the content and negate the need to go to the original provider?
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#13Soo, have you ever wondered why the ex eastern block countries are calling it the EUSSR? Maybe you should.
Today's EU future holds no prosperity, only regulation, bans, surveillance and bureaucracy. Soon we'll be longing for mostly harmless stupid shit like this.
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#14I have a pet peeve about articles that post about a legislation, but don't bother posting or linking to the actual wording of the legislation and don't bother calling a lawyer or legal expert to ask what the legislation means. Article 11: >1. Member States shall provide publishers of press publications with the rights provided for in Article 2 and Article 3(2) of Directive 2001/29/EC so that they may obtain fair and…
> don't bother calling a lawyer or legal expert to ask what the legislation means You would do well to take your own advice. Explanation on how those articles effectively mandate filters and a link tax: https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/
The website you link to doesn't explain anything with evidence either. All I see are assertions. For example
> In addition, all but very few sites (those both tiny and very new) will need to do everything in their power to prevent anything from ever going online that may be an unauthorised copy of a work that a rightsholder has registered with the platform. They will have no choice but to deploy upload filters, which are by their nature both expensive and error-prone.
Why will they have no choice but to deploy upload filters? Why are new/tiny sites exempt?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
You clearly don't see the implications of the laws at all. They demand prelicensing and that it includes terms of liability. Yeah it doesn't require an upload filter - if they don't mind paying blank checks! There is no way to tell automatically whose copyright everything belongs to! The law makes assumptions it will be easy. The law is an ass. There is no reasonable way to know ahead of time what will fit. So the wa…
> So the way to go is guilty until proven innocent leonine contracts with /everyone/ and if not undefined penalties whee! From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/leonine Definition of leonine: of, relating to, suggestive of, or resembling a lion What? (And furthermore, what a cool word)
Another name for contracts of adhesion[0], that comes from Aesop's Fables, "The Lion and His Fellow-Hunters"[1].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_form_contract [1] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LeonineContract
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
You clearly don't see the implications of the laws at all. They demand prelicensing and that it includes terms of liability. Yeah it doesn't require an upload filter - if they don't mind paying blank checks! There is no way to tell automatically whose copyright everything belongs to! The law makes assumptions it will be easy. The law is an ass. There is no reasonable way to know ahead of time what will fit. So the wa…
> So the way to go is guilty until proven innocent leonine contracts with /everyone/ and if not undefined penalties whee! From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/leonine Definition of leonine: of, relating to, suggestive of, or resembling a lion What? (And furthermore, what a cool word)
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#17I support these articles, not because they are a good idea, but because i hope the backlash against them will go to the root of the issue, the concept of intelectual property
I want to agree with you... but... what if it won't?
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#18Fake news (or at least fake/clickbait title). EP approved the text of the law, but didn't yet vote on the law.
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#19Article correction: Berners-Lee invented the world wide web, not the internet.
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#20I have a pet peeve about articles that post about a legislation, but don't bother posting or linking to the actual wording of the legislation and don't bother calling a lawyer or legal expert to ask what the legislation means. Article 11: >1. Member States shall provide publishers of press publications with the rights provided for in Article 2 and Article 3(2) of Directive 2001/29/EC so that they may obtain fair and…
Thanks for the text.
My rough eyeballing of this seems to hint more of an extension to dcma: but instead of a takedown, the owner/author can do a money grab instead? Isn't this already the mess that YouTube has, with copyright claims taking a good chunk of a video's revenue?