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Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

#11
Once again Americans are or should be embarrassed by their legislators. This puts us in the same boat as China in that we are attempting to block bad knowledge by fiat rather than with education.

How can we decry repressive censorship regimes in other countries when we reserve the right to blackhole sites that we disapprove of on whatever grounds?

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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Once again Americans are or should be embarrassed by their legislators. This puts us in the same boat as China in that we are attempting to block bad knowledge by fiat rather than with education. How can we decry repressive censorship regimes in other countries when we reserve the right to blackhole sites that we disapprove of on whatever grounds?

No, not really. Unlike China, our government is too dumb to even do it correctly.

I run my own DNS resolver. Guess what the config will be when this law passes? Step 1, try real DNS. Step 2, try open DNS. Anyone behind my firewall will have no idea that this law even exists.

Also, how does DNS affect bittorrent? I'll tell you how -- not at all.

You can't censor the Internet. Any attempt to try is just hilarious. (Remember when drugs were illegal and nobody could use them? Oh wait...)

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

There are any number of ways to get around the blacklist, but none of them matter if they don't apply to everyone . It's about the public, not a dedicated tech-person getting around it.

Normally I would agree with you, but you are talking about a technical measure standing between an irresistible force - male teens looking for free porn and the object of their desire.

In addition, these programs need only be written once, then they can be distributed forever.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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(posted this in related thread)

Contact your senators and tell them to just say no to S. 3804:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3804

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_se...

No good can come of the gov't trying to control what domains can be accessed, and it won't stop those that wish to do us harm or take advantage of us, because they'll just use another domain.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #17

(posted this in related thread) Contact your senators and tell them to just say no to S. 3804: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-3804 http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_se... No good can come of the gov't trying to control what domains can be accessed, and it won't stop those that wish to do us harm or take advantage of us, because they'll just use another domain.

That's the wrong response though. It distinguishes between this bill and other internet-monitoring-and-censoring bills, when in reality none exists: all of them are equally silly due to technological reasons. Instead of saying that nothing good can come from the government controlling what domains are accessed (which is true), point out that it's technically impossible and makes us look like idiots.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

#19
Interesting:

"After a flurry of last-minute lobbying from representatives of content providers including the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)..."

Well, I am glad they listened to so many diverse groups. I mean, the MPAA and the RIAA? That ensures the legislators heard every possible viewpoint on this issue.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

There are any number of ways to get around the blacklist, but none of them matter if they don't apply to everyone . It's about the public, not a dedicated tech-person getting around it.

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