In case the name of the original poster does not ring a bell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Vixie
My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
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Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#12I agree with the shadiness of this, but just to play devil's advocate here, is this to work around shitty ISP's that play games with DNS? Residential ISPs have not exactly been good faith actors in this game ...
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#13I've seen this been done before, and IME it's reasonable behavior.
I've seen so many instances of computers configured with DNS servers which are extremely slow, or provide garbage results, that adding a known good DNS server to the list, and then parallel resolving across all of them is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#14I'm always shocked at how easy it is for people to fall into the "Google is evil!!1" trap on such trivial stuff (and funnily enough, much more serious privacy issues related to Google are ignored/downvoted).
Hardcoded DNS servers are common. Extremely common in a bunch of IOT devices, given how broken some ISPs are. This is a non-story and the only reason it's being upvoted is because Google is doing it, and they also control the DNS server.
You know what would be an actual story though? If Google used Google DNS to spy on people. If anyone has concrete evidence that they're doing that, that is a big fucking deal. Not some email about a google-complaint-of-the-week.
Edit: To be clear I'd agree that in a high quality product there needs to be a way to change the DNS servers. Then again, this is a $30 device to hook up TVs, and I've seen $200 routers lacking that ability.
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Edit 2, elaborating on the above: You make a cheap device that will likely end up in millions of homes and your #1 support issue is "It doesn't work [because my ISP is terrible therefore my network configuration is shit]!". What do you do? Do you tell your consumers to suck it up and talk to their ISP? Or do you… hardcode a DNS server that you at least know will work?
"Issues" like this one are non-issues and distract from the myriad of very real privacy issues coming out of Google. Yes, this should be configurable at the very least… then again, Google products aren't exactly known for their wonderful configurability.
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#15This is pretty crappy and is the type of thing that would prevent you from a bunch of purely local use cases like pointing it at your local media server.
Is this the Paul Vixie?
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#16I've seen this been done before, and IME it's reasonable behavior. I've seen so many instances of computers configured with DNS servers which are extremely slow, or provide garbage results, that adding a known good DNS server to the list, and then parallel resolving across all of them is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
Unless you want your own dns server used at all times.
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#17I'm always shocked at how easy it is for people to fall into the "Google is evil!!1" trap on such trivial stuff (and funnily enough, much more serious privacy issues related to Google are ignored/downvoted). Hardcoded DNS servers are common. Extremely common in a bunch of IOT devices, given how broken some ISPs are. This is a non-story and the only reason it's being upvoted is because Google is doing it, and they als…
It's being upvoted because the issue was raised by none other than the father of DNS.
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#18I'm always shocked at how easy it is for people to fall into the "Google is evil!!1" trap on such trivial stuff (and funnily enough, much more serious privacy issues related to Google are ignored/downvoted). Hardcoded DNS servers are common. Extremely common in a bunch of IOT devices, given how broken some ISPs are. This is a non-story and the only reason it's being upvoted is because Google is doing it, and they als…
It's being upvoted because the issue was raised by none other than the father of DNS.
Given the ratio of people who upvote stories based on their title without clicking through, I highly doubt that.
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#19Just the fact that you can't cast your own local content when the mothership is down makes me want to throw out all cast devices.
Ignoring DNS servers seems like a very minor issue.
Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
#20Why not use ckoudflare DNS.
Google DNS is used for data mining... that's how Google crawls sites which are being requested.
Google doesn't crawl whole web yet.
Google also checks what site is doing how much traffic based on the DNS requests it figured out the traffic it gets and then ranks it appropriately for the search term making fake SEO ranking much harder.