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Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet

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Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet

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> The test is also expected to involve ISPs demonstrating that they can direct data to government-controlled routing points. These will filter traffic so that data sent between Russians reaches its destination, but any destined for foreign computers is discarded. > Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a ma…

don't worry, the US political system is doing similar but under the guise of "fake news" and "campaign finance reform". what doesn't work one way can simply be done another when you convince enough people to be afraid

The US political system absolutely is not doing that.

Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet

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This has nothing to do with cyber warfare. Its just pushing the envelope towards full censorship of the internet. They get the systems in place, they run drills to get the population used to the idea, then they close specific sectors, then they close everything and have special "open sectors" and then you're fucked. Don't fall for it.

people go to war to gain control over something. If you can do so by censoring ideas, great! That is a lot cheaper than actual war.

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> The test is also expected to involve ISPs demonstrating that they can direct data to government-controlled routing points. These will filter traffic so that data sent between Russians reaches its destination, but any destined for foreign computers is discarded. > Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a ma…

don't worry, the US political system is doing similar but under the guise of "fake news" and "campaign finance reform". what doesn't work one way can simply be done another when you convince enough people to be afraid

Not even close. There is no network layer firewalling. Private platforms have kicked off offensive and BS content mostly to protect their market value to the majority of users.

Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet

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Any sources on the quote in the article, "Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a mass censorship system akin to that seen in China, which tries to scrub out prohibited traffic." ? I searched and all I came up with was several sites saying the exact same thing, literally word for word, or otherwise saying s…

>> Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these [government-controlled] routing points.

> Certainly not enough to suggest it's some sort of precursor to Chinese level censorship if this action is all that's based on.

That technical capability is an essential precursor to building a clone of the great firewall. After that, the censorship is just a matter of adding firewall rules.

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It's a smart thing to do (to have such a plan) even if no cyberwar ever takes place. There are so many possible scenarios of what could go wrong and having autonomous but functioning internet is absolutely necessary.

What's the value in protecting the domestic internet from a cyber attack? Critical national information services absolutely, but if Reddit goes down, it's not a matter of national emergency. The conceit COULD be for disseminating information, but a text message system would make more sense in that regards, plus good old fashioned TV and Radio.

Re: Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet

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This has nothing to do with cyber warfare. Its just pushing the envelope towards full censorship of the internet. They get the systems in place, they run drills to get the population used to the idea, then they close specific sectors, then they close everything and have special "open sectors" and then you're fucked. Don't fall for it.

FTA: "Eventually the Russian government wants all domestic traffic to pass through these routing points. This is believed to be part of an effort to set up a mass censorship system akin to that seen in China, which tries to scrub out prohibited traffic."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

don't worry, the US political system is doing similar but under the guise of "fake news" and "campaign finance reform". what doesn't work one way can simply be done another when you convince enough people to be afraid

Not even close. There is no network layer firewalling. Private platforms have kicked off offensive and BS content mostly to protect their market value to the majority of users.

Private platforms censor to appease the advertisers, not the users.
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