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Abolish Billionaires

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Re: Abolish Billionaires

#11
Solution is simple. The more money you have, the greater is your responsibility towards others (beings and nature).

Taking things out by force (from anyone and anything) is never a solution, because everything is relative in this world, including your wealth.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#12

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

No, not in the least. But you do then question the context which allows a few to accumulate so much wealth while simultaneously observing a significant proportion of the population with stagnant levels of wealth.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#13

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

No you are not a bad person.

If you knew for a fact that you would never make more than $100million no matter how successful it was would you still try to start a business?

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#14

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

Personally, I don't go so far as to advocate abolishing billionaires, but I do favor a very high tax bracket like 80 or 90 percent to fund basic redistribution. This would not abolish billionaires, but would make it harder to become a dollar billionaire.

When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton answered: "Because that's where the money is."

Re: Abolish Billionaires

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This is a very stupid idea that will no doubt get a lot of attention for the author by people who will explain in great detail how stupid it is. I wonder if that was the intent? There is zero chance of this ever happening. It is not worth the time to read about it. Edit: Seriously, this is populist clickbait drivel the Times is running so the broke millennial demographic can drool over revenge fantasies of smashing t…

You may be right, but I don't think you could have made a less persuasive argument.

I doubt anyone who doesn't immediately dismiss this as nonsense is capable of being persuaded by any kind of rational argument.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#16

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

Of course not. Is the owner of a monopolistic company a bad person? No. Is it good for society to allow a company to become a monopoly? No.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#17

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

Personally, I don't go so far as to advocate abolishing billionaires, but I do favor a very high tax bracket like 80 or 90 percent to fund basic redistribution. This would not abolish billionaires, but would make it harder to become a dollar billionaire. When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton answered: "Because that's where the money is."

Well, at least you understand that you’re robbing someone.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#18

Real question: If I start a business and people love my product so much so that I become a billionaire. Am I a bad person?

Seems like Elon Musk is a "good" billionaire for instance. The people who want to get rid of billionaires don't seem very well informed and use it as some kind of catch-all to explain where all their issues come from. It's very much disconnected from reality.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

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The existence of billionaires is about distribution of agency. Right now agency is distributed in an extreme and convoluted way. How can you have universal basic income without fixing the other end of the spectrum? The power to invest resources, to effect meaningful material change in our world, is being concentrated in the hands of very few.

Re: Abolish Billionaires

#20
I feel this abolish billionaires movement needs some tweaking.

History has many examples of people changing the world for the better and getting filthy rich doing so. If we start wealth taxing these people to limit their resources you are limiting their ability to push boundaries and hopefully advance society.

Where I feel the issue sits is with dynastic wealth. Just because grandpa did something, great grandchildren 10 generations on shouldnt be expected it's their right to be sitting on massive trusts of assets.

And I think this limits society if we let capital accumulate for a bunch of reasons but mainly 1) we become a divided society with little social mobility, 2)we lose innovation as people sit on assets and industries reduce competition. And poor people don't have the access to time or resource to innovate themself and 3) most importantly if we let small groups of elites run the country they stop caring about services that matter to most people. Things like schools and hospitals become cost lines to be reduced because they or their kids will never use the public system so that increasing teacher ratio, or longer waiting lists become less meaningful.

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