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Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#11
Quoting article:

> "The combination of a non-technical, female founder operating in the consumer packaged goods market with a mission-driven company was an anomaly in the Silicon Valley of four years ago"

Um, yes, it's an anomaly in Silicon Valley.

However, go sit on the parking shuttle bus at MD&M West and just listen. Everyone is basically trying to find a marketing angle to sell the same undifferentiated consumer products.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#12
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. (read the recent HackerNews article about DNA info being secretly shared if you can't see the problem) Getting fancy, you can buy nice charts with colorful status stickers. Minus the stickers, you can print the charts on any printer. All of this is private.

No, it can't. And you're missing the point of why we're doing this. Such kind of tracking is powerful not because it helps you keep track of what happened, but what could happen. There are patterns that humans can't easily discern that correlate with everything from ovarian cysts to endometriosis --- detecting the problem early on, gives people a better, longer life in the long run, and prevents potentially fatal com…

There are patterns that humans can't easily discern that correlate with everything from ovarian cysts to endometriosis

That's the thing: us from the outside don't know this (particularly men, but I'm guessing many women as well). But we do know that over-engineering is an endemic problem in our industry, including in the healthcare area. So the question seems fair, because we don't want to see people's health being exploited by selling them useless stuff. Because those abound. It's always the makers/sellers' job to show that their thing is useful.

A pen and paper seem to work just fine... We all know how that story turned out.

No, not all of us know. People - even those in the logistics space - still ask that question today. As someone who helped develop such solutions, educating people was part and parcel of our business.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#14
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. (read the recent HackerNews article about DNA info being secretly shared if you can't see the problem) Getting fancy, you can buy nice charts with colorful status stickers. Minus the stickers, you can print the charts on any printer. All of this is private.

No, it can't. And you're missing the point of why we're doing this. Such kind of tracking is powerful not because it helps you keep track of what happened, but what could happen. There are patterns that humans can't easily discern that correlate with everything from ovarian cysts to endometriosis --- detecting the problem early on, gives people a better, longer life in the long run, and prevents potentially fatal com…

I think you are being dismissive of a solution that you can't datamine. The privacy violation is real, unless you made an app without any kind of network permissions.

Hint for those watching: HIPPA doesn't apply to self-gathered self-entered data, and there are many (insurance companies, drug companies, diaper services...) who would love to know this data.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#15
post #13

"The P&G acquisition of This is L., a startup retailer of period products and prophylactics, shows just how profitable investing in women’s healthcare brands and products can be." Elizabeth Holmes agrees.

That's not even wrong; Theranos wasn't a "women's healthcare brand", it was for any gender and sex.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#16

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

I’ve made progress informing people quite plainly that, over time, the data of an irregular period is an early indicator of a number of life-changing health conditions. But I agree that people are most geared towards seeing that if something has monetary worth than it’s undeniable it has innate worth. Empathy doesn’t have to be engaged then.

> I agree that people are most geared towards seeing that if something has monetary worth than it’s undeniable it has innate worth

I don't think that's true of most people, but I think it is a problem with the general tech and business community mindset.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#17

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

You see this with everyone who has no exposure to a type of person. “How many people actually stand in LINE to buy sneakers?” “How many people are ACTUALLY going to vote for that clown?” Etc

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To play devil's advocate: such dismissals are common to hear for all kinds of ideas/products. People are often not familiar or dismissive towards problems facing people other than them.

I'd say op's point stands regardless

Ok, but he explicitly tried to frame it as men "lacking empathy" for women, when it's just another case of someone out of touch with the target demographic.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#19
post #8

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

That $.5 notepad can handle all 3 of your talking points, and it comes with privacy. (read the recent HackerNews article about DNA info being secretly shared if you can't see the problem) Getting fancy, you can buy nice charts with colorful status stickers. Minus the stickers, you can print the charts on any printer. All of this is private.

There's a math error even assuming your premise is true. There are 3.75 billion women on this world. Even limiting it to women with smartphones, there are over a billion of them. If each of them is currently spending $0.50 on a notepad (again, we're assuming your premise is true even though it's not), that's a $500M market. Not bad.

Re: Showing the power of startup women’s health brands, P&G buys This is L (YC S15)

#20

This article reminds me of the time when I told someone from the tech/rationality community that I was working for a consumer health tech startup that was focused on women's fertility and menstrual health. I was helping to design the UX of the product that had to do with the actual tracking of their cycles and their health. My friend had a reaction that was quite typical of most people I talked to, but it's one that…

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