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Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by loraa »

aphextron wrote: post #5
IronWolve wrote: post #4

I do pay, just to alt-media companies that I respect more than the NY Times. MSM won't get my dime while they push political agendas instead and target the opposition.

Do these alt-media companies have accredited journalists, held to objective professional and ethical standards laid out by journalist organizations? Do they cite credible sources and facts with every article? Because that's what we're losing. The idea that JoeBlowKnowsTheTruth.com holds the same level of accountability, rigor, and seriousness as an actual news organization is what's gotten us into this mess.

Seems like companies like the New York Times doesn't either, so what is the difference.

The big MSM companies know they have the power to spread fake news and have a good amount of people blindly believe.

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by giancarlostoro »

jayalpha wrote: post #8

"The impact on journalism has been clear. Just within the past week, we have seen over 1,000 planned layoffs at Gannett, BuzzFeed and HuffPost" I had never considered the click-bait outlet "HuffPost" as "quality journalism". "We can start with the fact that “free” isn’t a good business model for quality journalism." Well, paid journalism is not a guarantee either: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-r…

I dont consider BuzzFeed as quality either. Wishing a meme producing site wasnt sharing the name as whats supposed to be a news site. My other issue is when they dont properly check the source of a story like the MAGA teens whom they claimed were doing things they clearly were not if you saw the full video.... Fake News goes both ways... If the "mainstream" media wont check sources better then they are just as much a part of the problem.

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by tivert »

dawhizkid wrote: post #7

Not sure about anyone else but every time I read an article about something I'm actually an expert in or few times about myself or a company I've worked for I see at least a handful of factual errors and/or exaggerations that aren't real.

> Not sure about anyone else but every time I read an article about something I'm actually an expert in or few times about myself or a company I've worked for I see at least a handful of factual errors and/or exaggerations that aren't real.

News is only the first rough draft of history [1] [2].

Newspapers are definitely not perfect, and they definitely make errors, but there's no better way to get such a breadth of timely, relatively reliable information to a general reader.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Barth#Legacy

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Graham#%22First_rough_dra...

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by 8ytecoder »

jayalpha wrote: post #8

"The impact on journalism has been clear. Just within the past week, we have seen over 1,000 planned layoffs at Gannett, BuzzFeed and HuffPost" I had never considered the click-bait outlet "HuffPost" as "quality journalism". "We can start with the fact that “free” isn’t a good business model for quality journalism." Well, paid journalism is not a guarantee either: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-r…

It's an Op-Ed.

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by roylez »

Paying does not stop people from lying to you,as long as there is interest in it. The crowd has been manipulated throughout the history, and is destined to be so, because there's interest in it. If you want not to be part of the crowd,use your own discretion, which you cannot outsource,by paying.

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by tanderson92 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #12
jayalpha wrote: post #8

"The impact on journalism has been clear. Just within the past week, we have seen over 1,000 planned layoffs at Gannett, BuzzFeed and HuffPost" I had never considered the click-bait outlet "HuffPost" as "quality journalism". "We can start with the fact that “free” isn’t a good business model for quality journalism." Well, paid journalism is not a guarantee either: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/claas-r…

I dont consider BuzzFeed as quality either. Wishing a meme producing site wasnt sharing the name as whats supposed to be a news site. My other issue is when they dont properly check the source of a story like the MAGA teens whom they claimed were doing things they clearly were not if you saw the full video.... Fake News goes both ways... If the "mainstream" media wont check sources better then they are just as much a…

https://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/staff-buzzfeed-news

Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by [deleted] »

aphextron wrote: post #5
IronWolve wrote: post #4

I do pay, just to alt-media companies that I respect more than the NY Times. MSM won't get my dime while they push political agendas instead and target the opposition.

Do these alt-media companies have accredited journalists, held to objective professional and ethical standards laid out by journalist organizations? Do they cite credible sources and facts with every article? Because that's what we're losing. The idea that JoeBlowKnowsTheTruth.com holds the same level of accountability, rigor, and seriousness as an actual news organization is what's gotten us into this mess.

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Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by [deleted] »

RickSanchez2600 wrote: post #2

I paid for a newspaper and the only thing factual was the cartoons. Fake news has been around longer than the Internet. Look at Supermarket tabloids. Look at all of the journalists being fired now. Fake news is paid for with advertising and collecting info on the readers. Sometimes you have to pay for it as well. Newspaper I paid for reported falsely that a friend of mine's parents had neglected their spinal meningit…

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Re: Want to Stop Fake News? Pay for the Real Thing

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Post by standardUser »

ademup wrote: post #6

I subscribed to a year of Washington Post and received a ton of spam-ish content, notifications, and pleas to renew during the entire period. Lesson learned, cancelled with predjudice.

I'm a WaPo subscriber (digital) for a few years now and have received virtually no correspondence from them at all, payment-related or otherwise.

Did you not unsubscribe to their emails that you didn't wish to receive?

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