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Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.

Tell that to the person who got his personal files flushed automagically by a Windows update.

Were they initially pushing that October update, or were those manual requests for update?

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I'm always impressed by people's creative ability to put a negative spin on almost anything. Particularly to generate hate-clicks. In this case they're implementing Seamless Updates, which should substantially reduce downtime and improve roll-backs during update installation (a major complaint) but instead of focusing on the benefit, they focus on the disk space loss. The reason it takes up space on Windows, Android,…

it's a nice quality of life improvement unless you're running low on space. 7+ gb is a lot , especially on embedded devices with low soldered storage - like microsoft's own products! coincidentally instead of offering upgradeable internal storage they upsell really hard on the models with more storage in their surface lineup if anything, this should be a toggle- if only an opt-out toggle. fwiw, you can install a linu…

This is also going to be a major pain on my Windows VM's. I often only give those ~32 GB of storage to begin with, since they're only for a tiny handful of programs.

I'm assuming there will be a group policy setting I can change, though, since I'm lucky enough to have Windows 10 Pro...

Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning

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I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.

When I set up Windows to encode a video overnight, and I wake up the next morning and the encode isn't finished because Windows decided to restart in the middle, I'm not happy. This basically means I can't use Windows to encode videos, period. (And no, setting Active Hours doesn't work, because the whole point is I want the videos to get encoded when I'm not active!)

The same applies to downloading large files, etc. I realize that updates are important, but it's even more important that I can actually rely on my computer.

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Interesting... Microsoft is forcing everyone to update their machines for quite some time... I've noticed that MS is forcing updates on my machine about a year ago and out of frustration I asked about it on this forum four months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18029216 ) Please try it. Go to Computer Management/Services and Applications/Services and then stop and disable Windows Updates. It's a matter of…

I presume the first thing you'll do on your next Apple machine is disabling updates.

Don't forget to also disable auto-updates in Chrome/Firefox, since they are enabled by default.

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I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.

When I set up Windows to encode a video overnight, and I wake up the next morning and the encode isn't finished because Windows decided to restart in the middle, I'm not happy. This basically means I can't use Windows to encode videos, period. (And no, setting Active Hours doesn't work, because the whole point is I want the videos to get encoded when I'm not active!) The same applies to downloading large files, etc.…

You get a notification when Windows plans on restarting somewhere in the future. I just click on it and manually set the restart date 1 week in the future. That's it.

I'm also leaving the computer on for weeks and never had an unexpected reboot with this protocol.

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Linux has the exact same feature, and has had it since approximately forever. By default, 5% of the disk space on any system partition is reserved for use by the superuser after the main 95% portion is filled up. And system updates run with superuser privileges, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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It's not a warning - this only affects new PCs shipped with the latest version, not upgraders.

"at this time"

Exactly. Running Windows now is like playing roulette. How will this feature work in a month, "no idea". How will I change this option in the UI, "no idea". Will this option I set for important privacy setting stick after the latest (automatic) upgrade, "no idea. Ad infinitum. :/

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I don't understand why the updates take up so much space -- 7GB according to the article.

It seems like the old "set your pagefile manually so you never have to worry about it growing/shrinking" trick from Windows of yore - they are grabbing that much so that they don't have to grab more at any time. It's basically a promise that, while those 7 GB are the systems now, you'll never have a problem where you run out of storage space due to an update (assuming after they reserve the initial 7 GB).
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