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Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by KyleBrandt »

AtomicOrbital wrote: post #7

In traditional Japan the custom was each day had 12 hours of daylight and 12 of night time so to accommodate this the length of hours shifted day by day ... Masahiro was inspired by an ancient clock which implemented this idea such that he decided to craft by hand a watch to perform this as well ... incredible master and some impressive video documentary taboot

The time system was one of the real interesting things from the documentary to me. This Seiko page explains the time system well: https://museum.seiko.co.jp/en/knowledge/wadokei/huteijihou/

12 hour day (what is 24 hours in modern time). Daytime is always 6 hours and night time is always 6 hours. The absolute length of the hours changes with the seasons.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by KyleBrandt »

shawnps wrote: post #10

For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

One other common terminology, any additional features are often called "complications".

In particular others like me might enjoy the UTC/GMT complication, which often has a hand that goes around the watch once every 24 hours and can be set to another timezone like UTC.

On another pro-watch note, I've discovered that a non-smartwatch has an pretty amazing feature: the ability to check the time without seeing any sort of notification.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by ryanlol »

shawnps wrote: post #10

For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

>* Avoid replicas and fakes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgKMA6Bh6U)

Why? These days chinese factories are pushing superb 4130 clones for the price of a decent seiko.

This guy in the video seems to know nothing at all about the chinese watch industry.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by SamReidHughes »

shawnps wrote: post #10

For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

I'd say, don't avoid the gray market. You'll get lower prices, and you probably won't need to use the warranty. It's a net win, if the price drop is good enough. Many popular watches (e.g. JDM or non-USA-market Seikos) are only available gray-market in the USA.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by SamReidHughes »

ryanlol wrote: post #13
shawnps wrote: post #10

For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

>* Avoid replicas and fakes ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgKMA6Bh6U ) Why? These days chinese factories are pushing superb 4130 clones for the price of a decent seiko. This guy in the video seems to know nothing at all about the chinese watch industry.

Because that's immoral.

You can get a non-replica Chinese watch.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by ryanlol »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #15
ryanlol wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>* Avoid replicas and fakes ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgKMA6Bh6U ) Why? These days chinese factories are pushing superb 4130 clones for the price of a decent seiko. This guy in the video seems to know nothing at all about the chinese watch industry.

Because that's immoral. You can get a non-replica Chinese watch.

Unless you try to sell the watch as real, why would it be immoral?

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by SamReidHughes »

ryanlol wrote: post #16
SamReidHughes wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that's immoral. You can get a non-replica Chinese watch.

Unless you try to sell the watch as real, why would it be immoral?

Tricking people into buying fake watches is their business model, and it's a violation of copyright and trademark.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by ryanlol »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #17
ryanlol wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you try to sell the watch as real, why would it be immoral?

Tricking people into buying fake watches is their business model, and it's a violation of copyright and trademark.

>Tricking people into buying fake watches is their business model

You know nothing about the business and are just coming up with things

>and it’s a violation of copyright and trademark

I’m not sure that this would make it immoral, and how does this affect the customer anyway? As far as immoral things businesses do this one seems extraordinarily mild, hardly any cause for boycott.

I rather doubt this has anything to do with morals.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by _skel »

shawnps wrote: post #10

For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

Ironically there has never been a better time to buy an affordable mechanical watch than now.

Quartz won because the mechanical watches that most people could afford in the 1970s were very inaccurate. A cheap quartz watch was more accurate than any mechanical watch and anybody could afford one by the late 1970s -- although they were very expensive at first.

Affordable mechanical watches on the market today are much more accurate than they used to be, and they are perfectly good for everyday use.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Post by SamReidHughes »

ryanlol wrote: post #18
SamReidHughes wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tricking people into buying fake watches is their business model, and it's a violation of copyright and trademark.

>Tricking people into buying fake watches is their business model You know nothing about the business and are just coming up with things >and it’s a violation of copyright and trademark I’m not sure that this would make it immoral, and how does this affect the customer anyway? As far as immoral things businesses do this one seems extraordinarily mild, hardly any cause for boycott. I rather doubt this has anything to…

It's a fact that when buying watches, you have to watch out for fakes, because people pass fake watches off as the real thing.

> I’m not sure that this would make it immoral, and how does this affect the buyer anyway?

It doesn't just affect the buyer. It affects the company being faked.

And it's illegal, so you're helping a criminal enterprise.

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