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Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by StavrosK »

reissbaker wrote: post #9
StavrosK wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to MUD back in the day and there were role players who were very much into the character, and if you typed "snatches hat", it doesn't matter if the game didn't have support for it, that's what happened. Given that this wasn't rare, it seems likely that that's what happened.

Yup. WoW has special servers marked for roleplaying (as opposed to the more achievement-oriented "normal" servers), and it sounds like they were playing on one of those.

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks. Yeah, that must be what happened then.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by howard941 »

tonetheman wrote: post #7

That is a great read/translate.

Didn't it read as if translated by a native English speaker? I thought so too. Amazingly adept/scary, with only one really tiny niggle exception for the quoted "Uff" that transliterates better than it translates.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by NegatioN »

yosefzeev wrote: post #12

I think it is a bit sad that the only connection people really had to him was in the gaming world. I doubly think that it is sad that acceptance came only in the form of a denial of sorts of his actual reality.

I guess this is part of what the article tries to comment on though. The traditional viewpoint is: This is denial of reality, and it's sad.

But players themselves often just see it more as an extension of themselves, where it easier to find like-minded individuals, or others who see themselves like outcasts in some way. The fact that they're banding together in virtual space is in my eyes not necessarily a negative, although excessive gaming to run away from other responsibilities can be negative.

I think Mats was very aware of his own reality, and even seemed to write prose about how these two worlds contrasted for him on his blog (which I can't find directly atm, so I'm just basing that on the excerpts in the article).

The connections he made with people, were real, even though the space he made them in was man-made, abstract or non-real. Which is probably something that could not easily be achieved to this degree with the limitations he had in the physical world.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by caymanjim »

howard941 wrote: post #13
tonetheman wrote: post #7

That is a great read/translate.

Didn't it read as if translated by a native English speaker? I thought so too. Amazingly adept/scary, with only one really tiny niggle exception for the quoted "Uff" that transliterates better than it translates.

I was halfway through before I thought, "this reads like it was written by an ESL author." I scrolled up to look at the author's name, and only then noticed that it was machine-translated. Amazing job on the translation. Also a good story.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by uberman »

NegatioN wrote: post #8

I was a bit apprehensive about posting a google translated article, as some parts may be slightly off, so it's great to see some people enjoyed it despite that. It's originally written by Norway's national broadcasting (NRK), and since the art/pictures don't seem to be included in the translated version, here's the original link for anyone who wants to check it out: https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/forst-da-mats-var-…

Best thing I read today. Thanks for posting. I would have been hard pressed to read it aloud.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by defluct »

NegatioN wrote: post #8

I was a bit apprehensive about posting a google translated article, as some parts may be slightly off, so it's great to see some people enjoyed it despite that. It's originally written by Norway's national broadcasting (NRK), and since the art/pictures don't seem to be included in the translated version, here's the original link for anyone who wants to check it out: https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/forst-da-mats-var-…

I'm Norwegian and I realised half way through that I could just read it in the original language.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by zidel »

NegatioN wrote: post #8

I was a bit apprehensive about posting a google translated article, as some parts may be slightly off, so it's great to see some people enjoyed it despite that. It's originally written by Norway's national broadcasting (NRK), and since the art/pictures don't seem to be included in the translated version, here's the original link for anyone who wants to check it out: https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/forst-da-mats-var-…

Human translation: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/akbdug/only_when_mats_...

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by nso »

howard941 wrote: post #13
tonetheman wrote: post #7

That is a great read/translate.

Didn't it read as if translated by a native English speaker? I thought so too. Amazingly adept/scary, with only one really tiny niggle exception for the quoted "Uff" that transliterates better than it translates.

The structure of Norwegian and English are closely related. Most times you end up with something legible by translating each word directly without accounting for context.

Re: Only when Mats was dead did his parents understand the value of his game

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Post by sbr464 »

NegatioN wrote: post #8

I was a bit apprehensive about posting a google translated article, as some parts may be slightly off, so it's great to see some people enjoyed it despite that. It's originally written by Norway's national broadcasting (NRK), and since the art/pictures don't seem to be included in the translated version, here's the original link for anyone who wants to check it out: https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/xl/forst-da-mats-var-…

Amazing article, thanks for posting.
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