I fly out the Friday after this and will absolutely be opting out.
National Opt-Out Day Called Against Invasive Body Scanners
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Actually, given the additional delays for security, trips under ~ 250 miles, buses and trains are a viable alternative. I'd suspect that those routes are rapidly becoming more profitable for ground transport. Maybe that can help with investment in high speed trains.
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#13I can't get behind this, especially when it comes to kids. I really hope that someone finds proof they do store images and sues the US government/TSA for child pornography or something similar. While I doubt this opt-out day will gain serious traction to make a decision, I agree that the best thing to do is continue to call media attention to and scrutinize it.
Generally speaking, you can't sue the U.S. Government.
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I generally agree that there is way too much corporate control of the American government, but this is a pretty great example of how laws sometimes do nothing but hurt corporations.
Because I don't want to put up with this bullshit, I will take the (less profitable) bus or drive when I'm travelling fairly short distances. The airlines lose out, the oil companies lose out, and the airplane manufacturers lose out. I save a little money that I otherwise wouldn't have spent.
If the airlines were a powerful lobbying force, they would try to streamline the process of flying to attract get more people through in less time. The government decided that making people feel like they were safe from terrorists was more important than satisfying the airline lobbyists, so they chose to create security theater.
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#15This anti scanner fad stinks of mob mentality and hysteria. There is no evidence images have been stored at airports or that harm is caused by scans. There is a pathetic lack of rational discussion of factual policies and why such policies might be necessary, whether we like them or not.
I expect more from the HN crowd.
Someone want to fill us on on facts instead of speculation and fear mongering?
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#16This anti scanner fad stinks of mob mentality and hysteria. There is no evidence images have been stored at airports or that harm is caused by scans. There is a pathetic lack of rational discussion of factual policies and why such policies might be necessary, whether we like them or not. I expect more from the HN crowd. Someone want to fill us on on facts instead of speculation and fear mongering?
Sure.
These machines cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, offer no additional security, and take naked pictures of you. There really isn't much to discuss.
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#17This reminds me of all those Facebook groups telling people to protest OPEC by not buying gas on X day.
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#19This anti scanner fad stinks of mob mentality and hysteria. There is no evidence images have been stored at airports or that harm is caused by scans. There is a pathetic lack of rational discussion of factual policies and why such policies might be necessary, whether we like them or not. I expect more from the HN crowd. Someone want to fill us on on facts instead of speculation and fear mongering?
Sure. These machines cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, offer no additional security, and take naked pictures of you. There really isn't much to discuss.
How does a full body scan not provide additional security over a metal detector? Another absurd counterintuitive postulate based on no evidence.
Follow that up with "no discussion necessary" and you have mass hysteria.
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#20This anti scanner fad stinks of mob mentality and hysteria. There is no evidence images have been stored at airports or that harm is caused by scans. There is a pathetic lack of rational discussion of factual policies and why such policies might be necessary, whether we like them or not. I expect more from the HN crowd. Someone want to fill us on on facts instead of speculation and fear mongering?
Let's start with this:
In a free society, people are being coerced to participate in a security procedure that violates their privacy. Don't want to go through the porno scanners? Okay, punk — have fun being aggressively groped in punishment.
You don't get to enact this kind of invasive, extreme policy on a whim. Extreme measures call for extreme circumstances and at this point, no one has made any sort of compelling case for the necessity of seeing the American public naked or grabbing them by the nuts.
No one asked for this. And no one gave permission for this, aside from bureaucrats with more agenda than sense.
Finally, anyone dedicated to destroying themselves and others with a nonmetallic explosive is simply going to shove it up their ass. No pat down can detect that. So what, beyond further terrorizing the public, is the point?
The terrorists groups are a bunch of amateurs. If you want to see real terror, call up some bureaucrats.