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Couldn't find anything about it, but does anyone know if it supports Python 3.7 yet? Just messed around with TF yesterday on a Windows dev box, and the version downgrade shuffle was annoying .

Python 3.7 Compatibility is being tracked here: https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/20517

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What's interesting about Google is, they can have open source products that are hated a big % of devs (Angular) and something that doesn't have that problem (Tensorflow). I wonder what's the underlying issue behind this disparity. Wonder if it the teams themselves behind those products...

I think "hated" is a too strong a word here. They're releasing software that they use themselves and I think there are hits and misses in large part based upon how closely your own processes and what you're trying to accomplish match up with what Google is trying to do.

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Angular is hated? Angular is my only way out of Javascript fatigue, it just works.

It gets a lot of hate on HN when compared to React/Vue/etc, but I used it for years and it was a breathe of fresh air coming from raw JS. I think a lot of people on HN form opinions on software and its landscape without actually using it or interacting with its community (outside of HN).

According to on of the biggest frontend developer surveys, The State of JavaScript 2018 [1], Angular is the leading framework that people don't want to use again after having tried it.

So it's not merely HN criticism, this is a very common theme and having used all popular big name fronted frameworks myself extensively, I can also see why many people feel that way. Not gonna steer the discussion there, though, just came here to point out that it's not a niche opinion.

[1] https://2018.stateofjs.com/front-end-frameworks/overview/

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What's interesting about Google is, they can have open source products that are hated a big % of devs (Angular) and something that doesn't have that problem (Tensorflow). I wonder what's the underlying issue behind this disparity. Wonder if it the teams themselves behind those products...

A lot responses challenging your Angular-is-hated claim, but I'd like to challenge your other one.

Tensorflow is not necessarily the most loved framework, despite it being in python, and being around for years now. This is in stark contrast to the way TF was marketed and hyped up, as the f/w that's going to take over the world of DL. That clearly didn't happen.

I think torch/pytorch is more popular (but don't quote me on that). And there are about half-a-dozen more competing with these two.

Putting two and two together, Angular and TF likely have more similarities than differences when it comes to community response.

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It gets a lot of hate on HN when compared to React/Vue/etc, but I used it for years and it was a breathe of fresh air coming from raw JS. I think a lot of people on HN form opinions on software and its landscape without actually using it or interacting with its community (outside of HN).

According to on of the biggest frontend developer surveys, The State of JavaScript 2018 [1], Angular is the leading framework that people don't want to use again after having tried it. So it's not merely HN criticism, this is a very common theme and having used all popular big name fronted frameworks myself extensively, I can also see why many people feel that way. Not gonna steer the discussion there, though, just c…

That survey is biased, because it makes Angular == Angular 2+ == AngularJS.

I used Angular 5 on two projects last year and was quite happy with the experience.

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Angular is hated? Angular is my only way out of Javascript fatigue, it just works.

It gets a lot of hate on HN when compared to React/Vue/etc, but I used it for years and it was a breathe of fresh air coming from raw JS. I think a lot of people on HN form opinions on software and its landscape without actually using it or interacting with its community (outside of HN).

I see Vue as ,,Angular, the good parts.'' It's not that Angular is that bad, it's more that it was over-engineered (just like TensorFlow compared to pyTorch), but it was the best framework when it came out.

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What's interesting about Google is, they can have open source products that are hated a big % of devs (Angular) and something that doesn't have that problem (Tensorflow). I wonder what's the underlying issue behind this disparity. Wonder if it the teams themselves behind those products...

In the academia people prefer PyTorch over TensorFlow.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Angular is hated? Angular is my only way out of Javascript fatigue, it just works.

It gets a lot of hate on HN when compared to React/Vue/etc, but I used it for years and it was a breathe of fresh air coming from raw JS. I think a lot of people on HN form opinions on software and its landscape without actually using it or interacting with its community (outside of HN).

Have used both, though granted React was the first SPA i learnt and i had to use Angular 1.x (shudders) and i absolutely hate working Angular 1.x.

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What's interesting about Google is, they can have open source products that are hated a big % of devs (Angular) and something that doesn't have that problem (Tensorflow). I wonder what's the underlying issue behind this disparity. Wonder if it the teams themselves behind those products...

Angular is hated? Angular is my only way out of Javascript fatigue, it just works.

I think most people (including me) didn't like the 1.4 to 2.0 "transition" (e.g. not a single ounce of backward compatibility, basically Angular 1.4 was abandoned)
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