I think I know why they took it back. You see, they always told people that penis means masculinity, and masculinity is toxic. Now, you are getting the picture, their product resembles or rather, modeled after penis, and this is a big no-no as they consciously or unconsciously promoting masculinity. The gender bias is that they are not allowing penis shaped things to be displayed at CES but allowing vagina shaped things and this is clearly a sexism for men, not the other way around.
We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
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Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#12For those who didn't read the article... The author is claiming that their is a partial lewdness order among products so that normal products <= robotic vibrator <= vr porn. Therefore, if the lewdness threshold doesn't ban vr porn it cannot ban robotic vibrators either. But since robotic vibrators are banned and not vr porn, discrimination must be at play.
Not just VR porn; a sex doll too (leading to such suggestive video titles as "Sex Robot hands-on at CES 2018").
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#13I’m trying to link the accusation of gender bias and LGBT rights with the act of conceding the Innovation Award. Looks like their reason is that “it does not fall under Robotics category” which the article debates well. But, what actions and indications lead to gender bias? If I am a woman and I get rejected from a job, I don’t immediately start accusing the interviewer of gender bias. It hurts the cause for real iss…
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/there-s-a-new-sex-robot-... Did you read through the article? It's laughable for CES to claim that sex toys are somehow too "obscene" for it or are off topic.
Exactly.
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#14"We also believe that society needs to drop the taboo around sex and sexuality - it’s a part of life and health that absolutely should be part of mainstream discourse."
It's 2019 and an overwhelming number of social discourse is solely about sex and sexuality. A lot of people literally care about sex health more than any other health and it is, by many, believed to have negative effect on many people's mental health as well.
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#15"We also believe that society needs to drop the taboo around sex and sexuality - it’s a part of life and health that absolutely should be part of mainstream discourse." It's 2019 and an overwhelming number of social discourse is solely about sex and sexuality. A lot of people literally care about sex health more than any other health and it is, by many, believed to have negative effect on many people's mental health…
That doesn't justify a double standard.
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#16For those who didn't read the article... The author is claiming that their is a partial lewdness order among products so that normal products <= robotic vibrator <= vr porn. Therefore, if the lewdness threshold doesn't ban vr porn it cannot ban robotic vibrators either. But since robotic vibrators are banned and not vr porn, discrimination must be at play.
Perhaps the only reason they'd support VR porn is that that's one of the things that'll make people more inclined to buy VR-related products
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#17Why are they playing the gender bias card here? It’s odd to take it back, but this clearly has nothing to do with gender. What a silly ploy for even more attention.
According to the article, they aren't allowed to exhibit their sex toy for women at CES, while a sex doll for men and VR porn targeted at men are on display. There may be other explanations, but it does look like a bit of a double standard.
The previous sex toy that won an award was for women, from OhMiBod, founded by a woman. This is just a weak attempt to create controversy. It has nothing to do with them being women and that’s a silly first assumption.
If you go to the OhMiBod website, they have a big ad up boasting of their CES 2019 presence, including their all-female lineup of vibrators.
“The company’s experience contrasts starkly with the way CTA has treated sex toy company OhMiBod. Based in New Hampshire, the company has a variety of vibrators on display. They launched more than a decade ago and first appeared at CES in 2011 with a vibrator that synced to music on an iPod.
They’ve been at the show ever since, and have received nothing but support from CTA, said co-founder Suki Dunham.”
Also, there is nothing gender-specific about VR porn.
The fact that they were notified by CES 2 months ago and only launched a cheap smear campaign now is also telling.
And another year, a product by B.sensory, another smart vibrator, also won an award. Also a female founder.
But yeah, clearly they hate companies run by women and products for women.
Face it, you are getting played by a PR op here. Startups will do anything for coverage, and this is a pretty low brow tactic. Sadly, it worked very well.
It’s unfortunate because it really waters down actual incidents of sexism, and people are getting desensitized to claims that any adversity someone faces is because everyone else is a racist or sexist. That’s counterproductive to the cause.
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#18"We also believe that society needs to drop the taboo around sex and sexuality - it’s a part of life and health that absolutely should be part of mainstream discourse." It's 2019 and an overwhelming number of social discourse is solely about sex and sexuality. A lot of people literally care about sex health more than any other health and it is, by many, believed to have negative effect on many people's mental health…
That doesn't justify a double standard.
But making such opening statements questions their integrity
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#19I’m trying to link the accusation of gender bias and LGBT rights with the act of conceding the Innovation Award. Looks like their reason is that “it does not fall under Robotics category” which the article debates well. But, what actions and indications lead to gender bias? If I am a woman and I get rejected from a job, I don’t immediately start accusing the interviewer of gender bias. It hurts the cause for real iss…
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/there-s-a-new-sex-robot-... Did you read through the article? It's laughable for CES to claim that sex toys are somehow too "obscene" for it or are off topic.
They claim it is too obscene in the context of the innovation award categories- there isn't one for sex toys (https://www.ces.tech/Events-Programs/Innovation-Awards/Honor...).
I absolutely agree that they are overly puritanical when it comes to adult products in general though.
Re: We won a CES robotics innovation award, then they took it back
#20Why are they playing the gender bias card here? It’s odd to take it back, but this clearly has nothing to do with gender. What a silly ploy for even more attention.
According to the article, they aren't allowed to exhibit their sex toy for women at CES, while a sex doll for men and VR porn targeted at men are on display. There may be other explanations, but it does look like a bit of a double standard.
From http://fortune.com/2019/01/09/the-ose-toy-ces2019/
"Sex toys and CES have an unusual history. While the Ose wasn’t allowed on the show floor, adult novelty company OhMiBod has been a regular attendee for several years (and even won a Best of CES award in the the “Digital Health and Fitness Product” category in 2016).
Trojan condoms has also shown branded sex toys in years past. And Naughty America, an adult film studio, has a presence on the show floor this year, albeit in a private meeting room in the back."
Which might explain why they couldn't display their product- all of the private spaces were already sold out by then.