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Disruption for Thee, But Not for Me

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This article is a good time to plug LibreTaxi:

"Free and open source alternative to Uber/Lyft connecting passengers and drivers. LibreTaxi makes ridesharing affordable by getting rid of the third party between passengers and drivers. Negotiate the price before the ride is confirmed, pay cash upon arrival. 1-minute hiring for all drivers." https://libretaxi.org/

Re: Disruption for Thee, But Not for Me

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This article is a good time to plug LibreTaxi: "Free and open source alternative to Uber/Lyft connecting passengers and drivers. LibreTaxi makes ridesharing affordable by getting rid of the third party between passengers and drivers. Negotiate the price before the ride is confirmed, pay cash upon arrival. 1-minute hiring for all drivers." https://libretaxi.org/

Amazing. It's a shame it is still quite centralised (as far as I can tell) but definitely moving in the right direction.

Do they have a process for dealing with abusive users/drivers? E.g. if someone gets enough complaints can they get banned from the platform, or is that not possible by design?

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Thoughtful article. Wonder why you couldn’t have a meta ride app that would tell you which ride share app(s) to install based on your current location or on a search (say if you’re about to visit Austin for SXSW). A simple API for people to submit apps (and perhaps reviews) and no need to hack the incumbents’ apps (although there would be some karmic justice in that, I don’t think it’s right, and would probably lead…

Google Maps is that app, but they are missing a lot of the white label services, and only have the larger regional services like Uber and Go-Jek.

https://support.google.com/maps/answer/7245278?co=GENIE.Plat...

They also do meta search against other modes too, like walking, bicycling, and public transit.

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The main challenge to successful (i.e., market-dominating) cooperatively-owned platforms like the ones Cory wants is that usually there are no incentives that motivate individuals to dedicate their lives and souls in the creation, launching, running, and perpetual improvement of such platforms for the benefit of others. The exceptions, including successful projects like GNU and Linux, tend to be led by rather unique…

Creating a federated platform is technically quite feasible. E-mail, the Web, Usenet (before it was overrun by spam anyway), IRC... plus these days, stuff like PeerTube and Mastodon. Sure, not every one of these is "successful", but the trend is there.

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A meta ride share app needs development effort (money), infrastructure (money) maintenance (money) and integration with local co-ops (money) and all that money needs an administrative hierarchy (more money).

All this overhead needs to be put in place without any direct income from riders. Either it come's in the form of a service that co-ops subscribe to and pay for or it comes in the form of a collective formed of individuals already in the co-op. Whatever the formation, it's activity that needs funding from the drivers.

This "meta" layer is then ready for abuse. Once the drivers are connected to this top-level coordinating layer the individual co-op layers become mere middle-men and are ripe for cutting out. Then we just get back to Uber.

It would be interesting to learn ideas how such a meta system could be created while limiting the overhead costs levied on the co-ops and retaining a decentralized cooperative system that allows drivers (and the higher layer workers) to retain their power.

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This article is a good time to plug LibreTaxi: "Free and open source alternative to Uber/Lyft connecting passengers and drivers. LibreTaxi makes ridesharing affordable by getting rid of the third party between passengers and drivers. Negotiate the price before the ride is confirmed, pay cash upon arrival. 1-minute hiring for all drivers." https://libretaxi.org/

Who has cash nowadays though?

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I love this. It indirectly calls out that uber has relatively easy to clone tech. A co-op network is a great idea and a white label or open source uber application is probably a great idea.

I was appalled that the the existing taxi system (essentially a protected monopoly) wouldn't immediately create an Uber/Lyft app when ride-sharing first appeared. Then I realized that building such a thing would only benefit drivers and customers, and those are the two constituents that the existing taxi system doesn't care about.

In the UK there's an app available, https://gett.com/, which is very similar to Uber but hails regular, licensed taxis.

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The closest thing we have to a meta-service is Meta-Elsevier, more popularly known as Sci-Hub, which works so well simply because it doesn't care about legality. It's hosted outside the US on a slowly changing list of TLDs, and so it doesn't have to worry about any form of copyright law, not just the DMCA. I think if you wanted to build more services like this, you'd have to go this approach: instead of building an a…

Sci-Hub is Kazakhstani creation actually.

Re: Disruption for Thee, But Not for Me

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The closest thing we have to a meta-service is Meta-Elsevier, more popularly known as Sci-Hub, which works so well simply because it doesn't care about legality. It's hosted outside the US on a slowly changing list of TLDs, and so it doesn't have to worry about any form of copyright law, not just the DMCA. I think if you wanted to build more services like this, you'd have to go this approach: instead of building an a…

Sci-Hub is Kazakhstani creation actually.

Which enjoys the same level of independance as Saudi Arabia because of its natural riches.
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