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Re: It Appears China Is Building a Massive Espionage Database on America

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Post by Paraesthetic » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 12:27 AM UTC

diplo24 wrote: post #6

na85 wrote: post #2

Hand-wringing about cyber war aside, the question that really needs answered is: what paradigm shift needs to happen before breaches stop being depressingly common, and why isn't that shift happening?

Really simple, there needs to be a cold war-mentality cultural shift in America. People need to ostracize their friends who are pro-China, and politicians need to know that they have the unanimous support of the people before we begin to defend and reorient ourselves (certainly on many different levels). Unfortunately, a fair amount of businessmen and a handful of billionaires have business interests in China (while…

This! Diplo for president

Re: It Appears China Is Building a Massive Espionage Database on America

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Post by justinclift » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 12:51 AM UTC

The DNA break in prediction is interesting.

While potential useful longer term, for a short to medium term thing it's more likely to be a biometric info hack. (eg retina, face, fingerprints)

Those at least can lead to faked duplicates, which the other leaked info can be put into the field with as well.

Thinking about it more, with DNA info at hand for a target individual... if a state actor can manufacture sufficient credible matching DNA for a target to leave at a manufactured crime scene, that opens up some possibilities.

Re: It Appears China Is Building a Massive Espionage Database on America

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Post by webmaven » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 1:39 AM UTC

The scale of the effort is mind-boggling.

For a straight population-based comparison, China (~1.4B) building a database of every American (~300M), is like the USA building a database of everyone in the UK or France (~64M).

I also imagine there will be a lot of badly correlated records, leading to Brazil-like Tuttle/Buttle errors.

Re: It Appears China Is Building a Massive Espionage Database on America

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Post by EricE » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 7:01 AM UTC

justinclift wrote: post #12

The DNA break in prediction is interesting. While potential useful longer term, for a short to medium term thing it's more likely to be a biometric info hack. (eg retina, face, fingerprints) Those at least can lead to faked duplicates, which the other leaked info can be put into the field with as well. Thinking about it more, with DNA info at hand for a target individual... if a state actor can manufacture sufficient…

Framing people? Please!

DNA = targeted biological weapons

Let that sink in.

Re: It Appears China Is Building a Massive Espionage Database on America

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Post by justinclift » Fri, Jan 04, 2019, 7:58 AM UTC

EricE wrote: post #14

justinclift wrote: post #12

The DNA break in prediction is interesting. While potential useful longer term, for a short to medium term thing it's more likely to be a biometric info hack. (eg retina, face, fingerprints) Those at least can lead to faked duplicates, which the other leaked info can be put into the field with as well. Thinking about it more, with DNA info at hand for a target individual... if a state actor can manufacture sufficient…

Framing people? Please! DNA = targeted biological weapons Let that sink in.

Both are different types of "damage".

Framing someone can discredit them, their position, or influence them to become an actor/agent for your benefit. Depending on who's doing the framing (etc).

Targeted biological weapons fulfill a different purpose. ;)