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Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Seems like you should be able to leverage standard copyright law - per-violation 10-100k seems like the industry demanded fine...

Does YouTube have the necessary information to prosecute false claimants? They certainly are unwilling to pass such info on to content creators; I'm unsure what, if any, verification of identity is required to submit a claim.

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Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Does YouTube have the necessary information to prosecute false claimants? They certainly are unwilling to pass such info on to content creators; I'm unsure what, if any, verification of identity is required to submit a claim.

Why would it be YouTube’s job? Someone has claimed ownership and is now making profit on it - that (to me a non lawyer expect same behavior from the legal system ;) ) seems like it would be a standard copyright violation :D

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Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Why would it be YouTube’s job? Someone has claimed ownership and is now making profit on it - that (to me a non lawyer expect same behavior from the legal system ;) ) seems like it would be a standard copyright violation :D

If YouTube is unwilling to pass along the information, as the parent says, then who are you going to file suit against? You’ll have to sue an unknown person and get a court order to get YouTube to turn over the person’s name. That’s an expensive start to aprocess with an unknown end. Isn’t it even possible the person isn’t in the US? Then you’ve thrown away your money.

Even if the defendant is in the U.S., they may have no significant income or assets from which you could recover damages or legal fees.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Seems like you should be able to leverage standard copyright law - per-violation 10-100k seems like the industry demanded fine...

Does YouTube have the necessary information to prosecute false claimants? They certainly are unwilling to pass such info on to content creators; I'm unsure what, if any, verification of identity is required to submit a claim.

If it doesn't have the necessary information to prosecute false claimants (i.e. their exact identity) then why does it hand over ownership of a video to these same claimants at the drop of a hat?

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Does YouTube have the necessary information to prosecute false claimants? They certainly are unwilling to pass such info on to content creators; I'm unsure what, if any, verification of identity is required to submit a claim.

A court could presumably subpeona that information?

Yeah after you pay for a lawyer to set all that up for you.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Moderation is really the ultimate scalability problem. I have some level of sympathy for the predicament YouTube is in, but I really hope the system can be redesigned.

I've never seen (keyword: seen) a press release or article about how an individual / group of DMCA abusers of this sort was arrested. Why can't this be taken more seriously as a form of fraud, and why can't these people be gone after? Sure, you can obfuscate your real IP when making a takedown request, but they have to receive the money somewhere.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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A court could presumably subpeona that information?

Yeah after you pay for a lawyer to set all that up for you.

Lawyers and lawmakers (who are very often also the former) in their infinite wisdom have created a system in which they always win, even when the people the system ostensibly exists to serve do not.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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If YouTube is unwilling to pass along the information, as the parent says, then who are you going to file suit against? You’ll have to sue an unknown person and get a court order to get YouTube to turn over the person’s name. That’s an expensive start to aprocess with an unknown end. Isn’t it even possible the person isn’t in the US? Then you’ve thrown away your money.

Even if the defendant is in the U.S., they may have no significant income or assets from which you could recover damages or legal fees.

A lot of people have personal liability umbrella policies... However probably not the kinds of people that would do this.

Why have we made it so easy for crime in this country.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Where did you find that YouTube has returned ownership to him? As far as I've been able to find with a quick search, the false claimant continues to receive monetization from the video.

The comment on the video by the author of the video > UPDATE: It's official! I got my video back and Ramjets channel was deleted for false copyright claim. Huge thanks to everybody who helped. Every share, like comment, everybody who spread the word about what happened. You made the difference. Now let's make sure we protect EVERY content creator from false claims. Please sign the petition, we can make a difference.

Thank you - that's excellent to hear!

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Where did you find that YouTube has returned ownership to him? As far as I've been able to find with a quick search, the false claimant continues to receive monetization from the video.

The comment on the video by the author of the video > UPDATE: It's official! I got my video back and Ramjets channel was deleted for false copyright claim. Huge thanks to everybody who helped. Every share, like comment, everybody who spread the word about what happened. You made the difference. Now let's make sure we protect EVERY content creator from false claims. Please sign the petition, we can make a difference.

> Please sign the petition

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/community_petitions/YouTube_fix_...

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