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Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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This is only an argument because of different ways of defining what a "Christmas movie" is, which aren't mutually exclusive: a) Whether the movie is unambiguously set during Christmas, and if so whether that's clearly an artistic choice, or as much of a coincidence as a movie that has nothing to do with the weather being set in the summer or winter. b) Whether the movie is aimed at the "Christmas movie market". I.e.…

Also C: Its a christmas movie if we all decide it is.

If it becomes one more of the christmas-centric traditions, then it becomes a christmas movie.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #2

I wasn't aware this was even an argument. Is this a joke or an American thing? I must admit my initial reaction was bof but now I'm slightly intrigued. Maybe it's a meme?

It's definitely also a meme, whatever else it is. As an American, I haven't heard much about this debate before this holiday season. Definitely enjoying it, though.

Die Hard being regarded as a Christmas movie has been growing in popularity in the culture for many years now. I did however first hear about it being discussed in a TV show, although I can't remember which.

The article also touches on another meme that has been growing for the past few years, Thanksgiving and its lack of associated songs. I remember first noticing that due to Bob's Burgers mentioning it constantly in their Thanksgiving episodes, but have now noticed that SNL has been bringing up the fact there are no Thanksgiving songs for the past couple years as well.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #14

A Christmas Story is the tradition in this household.

Same here. I could just watch it on a loop. Some channels used to even show it like that during Christmas.

Now that we have kids they are too young for the humor and don't find it as funny. We tried Home Alone but it just doesn't feel right. So I think we settled on Elf as a compromise.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #4

This is only an argument because of different ways of defining what a "Christmas movie" is, which aren't mutually exclusive: a) Whether the movie is unambiguously set during Christmas, and if so whether that's clearly an artistic choice, or as much of a coincidence as a movie that has nothing to do with the weather being set in the summer or winter. b) Whether the movie is aimed at the "Christmas movie market". I.e.…

Those are excellent points, but keep in mind that a lot of people define christmas movie as something that both adults and children can watch together. So that makes die hard a hard sell for a lot of families.

For me, any movie set in or around christmas qualifies as a christmas movie and my favorite christmas movies are "die hard", "home alone 1 and 2" and "scrooged". They all represent the redeeming christmas spirit in their own unique way.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, does anyone actually think Die Hard _isn't_ a christmas movie?

The author lost me when he said that “Last Action Hero” is not a great movie, so I wouldn’t take anything he writes about movies as serious. John McTiernan is a genius.

It's a great movie but none of my friends agree with me about it which makes me sad.

Metahumor is underappreciated

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #2

I wasn't aware this was even an argument. Is this a joke or an American thing? I must admit my initial reaction was bof but now I'm slightly intrigued. Maybe it's a meme?

I’m in the UK and it’s been an ongoing debate amongst my friends for many years. (Yes it is)

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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post #2

I wasn't aware this was even an argument. Is this a joke or an American thing? I must admit my initial reaction was bof but now I'm slightly intrigued. Maybe it's a meme?

The joke was popularized by an American TV show. It’s become one of those things people know they can trot out for easy upvotes, likes, etc. Most Christmas movies are family-oriented but Die Hard is an action movie so saying it’s one’s favorite Christmas movie is meant to demonstrate the distinctiveness of one’s personality. It’s like how people made jokes about sporks and “le earth”. Maybe in a few years it’ll come…

> It’s like how people made jokes about [...] “le earth”

What is that?

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