Wiki link on the guy for the lazy, as I had no idea who he was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Giannandrea
John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team
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Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team
#12Hopefully this is a signal that Apple is going to take steps to improve Siri. If Apple can find a way to get the best of both worlds from data privacy and machine learning then it will have been well worth the wait.
I am really annoyed by Siri these days. I was so excited when they introduced it in 2011 (?). But I feel like there was almost no progress since then. It’s so painful to use Siri even for the simplest of tasks
i use siri to turn off and on hue lights (sometimes) and sometimes to set reminders. I do feel that since I dont have Siri on an "always on" speaker, it becomes less useful. I dislike the idea of having an "always on" speaker, so I'm not sure what to do. :)
Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team
#13Wiki link on the guy for the lazy, as I had no idea who he was: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Giannandrea
Pretty short page but solid background.
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I am really annoyed by Siri these days. I was so excited when they introduced it in 2011 (?). But I feel like there was almost no progress since then. It’s so painful to use Siri even for the simplest of tasks
Totally agree. On my first iOS device (XR) since the first Android device arrived. The speech recognition on Android is FAR better....it would get it right 99% of the time. Siri is so bad I've considered starting a Twitter feed of "sh Siri thinks I said..." Oddly, even speech to text with GBoard on the iPhone is noticeably worse than on Android as well.
I've been using iPhones for some number of generations now but the autocorrect on iOS is terrible compared with Android from 5+ years ago.
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I am really annoyed by Siri these days. I was so excited when they introduced it in 2011 (?). But I feel like there was almost no progress since then. It’s so painful to use Siri even for the simplest of tasks
Totally agree. On my first iOS device (XR) since the first Android device arrived. The speech recognition on Android is FAR better....it would get it right 99% of the time. Siri is so bad I've considered starting a Twitter feed of "sh Siri thinks I said..." Oddly, even speech to text with GBoard on the iPhone is noticeably worse than on Android as well.
There's a subreddit that captures your idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/SiriFail/.
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#16It's just unbelievable to me that the company sitting on a quarter trillion dollars is unwilling to spend a small fraction of that hoard to hire the best of the best in order to fix the very thing that will kill their cash cow in the next 5 years. I'm on iOS myself (and have been faithful since the first iPhone), but $30 Google Home puck feels like it's from the future. Understands me perfectly, comes up with decent answers, doesn't require rigid commands, etc. Whereas Siri is so bad I use it only to set alarms and timers. Not even setting of reminders is reliable.
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After so many years Siri still doesn’t do “take me to the nearest McDonald’s” like Google Assistant can. And whenever Siri isn’t “confident” it just launches Safari, but it’s often not even the best starting point, and Siri sometimes gives up silently without feedback. Also for a bit of fun, ask Siri for the population of Buffalo NY. I noticed because Siri also tells you that Buffalo is big, and then goes on to say..…
The worst part for me is it opens it in Safari and not Chrome. (As well that it opens directions with not-Google Maps)
Isn’t it still the case that “third party” browsers on iOS are just wrappers around Safari/WebKit anyway?
For the longest time Chrome on iOS was just using WebKit/safari’s UIWebView then later WKWebView for rendering webpages, much like many other iOS apps that display web content. For various reasons the App Store rules have always banned third party browser rendering engines, I haven’t heard any change in this policy recently?
The only real advantage of Chrome on iOS was ancillary features like Google account bookmark/history sync etc if you are all in on Chrome elsewhere, which isn’t all that useful in the context of a link provided by Siri, for me at any rate. The feature that lets apps using WKWebView access your password/auto fill data only works with Safari on iOS as well, which is all the reason I need not to bother with the WebKit-wrapper rivals anyway.
The maps issue is significantly more annoying to me.
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I am really annoyed by Siri these days. I was so excited when they introduced it in 2011 (?). But I feel like there was almost no progress since then. It’s so painful to use Siri even for the simplest of tasks
After so many years Siri still doesn’t do “take me to the nearest McDonald’s” like Google Assistant can. And whenever Siri isn’t “confident” it just launches Safari, but it’s often not even the best starting point, and Siri sometimes gives up silently without feedback. Also for a bit of fun, ask Siri for the population of Buffalo NY. I noticed because Siri also tells you that Buffalo is big, and then goes on to say..…
"what is the population of buffalo, new york" (that's what i told siri) shows me London?
Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team
#19It's just unbelievable to me that the company sitting on a quarter trillion dollars is unwilling to spend a small fraction of that hoard to hire the best of the best in order to fix the very thing that will kill their cash cow in the next 5 years. I'm on iOS myself (and have been faithful since the first iPhone), but $30 Google Home puck feels like it's from the future. Understands me perfectly, comes up with decent…
Um...you know JG was formerly at Google doing all that magic you love and is now at Apple, right?
Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team
#20SVP is probably a very important position in corporate AAPL, however, I will feel more excited for Apple if someone like Chris Lattner would join/return as chief AI/ML engineer.