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Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

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Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

#11
A law mandating open access to APIs would do wonders to spur competition.

Remember Pidgin? Knitting together disparate IM platforms into one client was great. You can't do that with Facebook, their TOS doesn't allow for it.

Open access to 3rd party clients that can bridge platforms will break the network effect lock-in and allow for real competition to emerge.

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

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post #11

A law mandating open access to APIs would do wonders to spur competition. Remember Pidgin? Knitting together disparate IM platforms into one client was great. You can't do that with Facebook, their TOS doesn't allow for it. Open access to 3rd party clients that can bridge platforms will break the network effect lock-in and allow for real competition to emerge.

I am currently contributing on libraries for libpurple (the central library used in Pidgin) and Spectrum to improve the transports between those 3rd party networks and the XMPP one. Also with the integration of those transports within the Movim project.

Recently I was able to bridge Discord and Slack and working on Instagram (to finally have a decent way to use Instagram DM on desktop).

See https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-discord, https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-instagram and https://movim.eu/ :)

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

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post #11

A law mandating open access to APIs would do wonders to spur competition. Remember Pidgin? Knitting together disparate IM platforms into one client was great. You can't do that with Facebook, their TOS doesn't allow for it. Open access to 3rd party clients that can bridge platforms will break the network effect lock-in and allow for real competition to emerge.

This current set of Facebook scandals wouldn’t exist if they had kept their platform closed and walled - the whole scandal seems to be that other companies were permitted access to the API (e.g. Cambridge Analytica). In response Facebook is locking down APIs and making their platform more closed to avoid such issues in the future.

Doesn’t Pidgin still support Facebook messenger?

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

#14
Email.

It lets you have private and group chats, organize events, share photos and links, keep contact lists, etc. I know is hard to see, but email is quite sexy: it is decentralized and vastly adopted, more so than FB. It works on every platform and it's been around for a long time. And it's not going anywhere. It's the dream of all the anarco-crpyto-hackers and it already exists! Sometimes it's hard to see the obvious.

And I think email could still be vastly improved by better clients. It just so happens that there is currently no big economic incentive to create one.

I believe that we are still in the very early moments of the Internet, and we are collectively doing a lot of stupid shit. Like the first few decades of synthesizer music. We have to go through some silly stages before getting back to our senses and developing some taste.

Also RSS, newsgroups and other blasts from the past. Everything has been reinvented poorly and plastered with ads, but just wait a few years...

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

#17

Did anyone hear about openbook.social ? They had a failed kickstarter campaing but got their goal in a second one. I think the beta starts in january. I'm keen to test it out. TIt's privacy focused and hopefully 100% open source.

Centralized if I remember correctly even if they are open source. The instances will not federate to each-others.

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

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post #9

You're not supposed to submit stories like this. In fact, that people do this is the reason that URLs in these kinds of stories aren't clickable. Links on the site are community property, and the submitter doesn't get to capture them with a special comment at the top of the thread.

I wanted to give some context to the post since the news is already widely shared. But thank you for the guideline, I honestly didn't knew that.

Re: Time to #DeleteFacebook, Again

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post #9

You're not supposed to submit stories like this. In fact, that people do this is the reason that URLs in these kinds of stories aren't clickable. Links on the site are community property, and the submitter doesn't get to capture them with a special comment at the top of the thread.

I wanted to give some context to the post since the news is already widely shared. But thank you for the guideline, I honestly didn't knew that.

It's in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
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