They're still aiming for a first release of the phones in Spring 2019 (this is from the newsletter, not the blog post)
For anyone not in $DEFAULT hemisphere, I'm assuming this means Q2/March-ish 2019.
Librem 5 dev kits are shipping
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#12Has anyone who pre-ordered the cancelled Librem 11 from Purism got their refund?
I put money down more than a year ago. They didn't meet their MoQ, and so offered refunds or applying it to another product. I chose a refund almost two months ago, and I still have not received it despite many follow ups and shifting deadlines.
I'm concerned that Purism may be having cash flow issues?
Re: Librem 5 dev kits are shipping
#13They're still aiming for a first release of the phones in Spring 2019 (this is from the newsletter, not the blog post)
I really hope they succeed. Do you know what the specs of the phone are?
I don't think they've announced final specs.
But it will have a i.MX 8M SOC [1] and more than 2GB of ram [2].
The dev kit has a 720 x 1440 5.7" screen [3] (I assume this is the final screen).
[1] https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers...
[2] https://puri.sm/posts/june-1st-last-call-for-librem5-devkit/
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#14Every time Purism is mentioned on HN there are always people chiming in with negativity around how it's not open or secure or free enough, based on some unachievable metric of those things and with an side dose of utopian fantasizing. Buy one of these phones because you - Want a 'free' phone to exist in the future - Want an open source phone to exist in the future - Want a secure phone to exist in the future It may n…
Is it possible to buy one of those phones? As in I pay and get a physical thing for the money in a couple of days?
I ask because I wanted to buy a Firefox OS phone and it was impossible. There were preorders and non-official compatible terminals, but the official, all hardware working, reasonably featured ones were impossible to get.
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#15Is there any document where they describe how their focus on security shapes pureOS? I'm seeing stuff like bundling some add-ons for the browser, and kernel patches. In my mind, securing users in 2018 means to have a decent password manager with an up-to-date browser, make sure that apps are sandboxed and prohibit the browser from accessing all my user's files. Do they tackle this?
Edit: Sorry, I realized you were only asking about the OS after making this post. Feel free to ignore.
I think it looks like an interesting project and will buy one. I especially like the hardware kill switches.
>Here are some benefits and key differentiators of the Librem 5, the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset and the only user-respecting mobile phone product offering on the market:
- Privacy protection by default, instead your profile and data being products sold to the highest bidder.
- Does not use Android or iOS. The Librem 5 comes with the mobile version of our FSF-endorsed operating system PureOS by default, and is expected to be able to run most GNU+Linux distributions.
- CPU separate from baseband, isolating the blackbox that the modem may represent and allowing us to seek hardware certification of the main board by the Free Software Foundation.
- Hardware Kill Switches for camera, microphone, WiFi/Bluetooth, and baseband.
- End-to-end encrypted decentralized communications via Matrix over the Internet.
-We also intend the Librem 5 to integrate with the Librem Key security token in the future.
Also see here: https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-5-final-decision-about-kill-...
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#16I'm in love with the mission - but don't want to really have to switch ecosystems again (from Linux --> Apple --> PureOS). I love OSX - could I not do the same with OSX by tightening it down?
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#17Has anyone who pre-ordered the cancelled Librem 11 from Purism got their refund? I put money down more than a year ago. They didn't meet their MoQ, and so offered refunds or applying it to another product. I chose a refund almost two months ago, and I still have not received it despite many follow ups and shifting deadlines. I'm concerned that Purism may be having cash flow issues?
This is the concerning part for me and is why I have been holding off on this purchase (for reference, I check their website/twitter/mastodon for news/updates every second day or so).
The price rise, while making sense, also says to me that they're trying to gain access to more funds now rather than in the future.
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#18Would be interested in some links to SDKs and/or style guides. As a developer, how do I get started writing my app to target the Librem 5? Went through the website and many forums but haven't found any definitive.
Here is a resource directly from them:
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#19I'm in love with the mission - but don't want to really have to switch ecosystems again (from Linux --> Apple --> PureOS). I love OSX - could I not do the same with OSX by tightening it down?
OSX on a phone?
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#20Every time Purism is mentioned on HN there are always people chiming in with negativity around how it's not open or secure or free enough, based on some unachievable metric of those things and with an side dose of utopian fantasizing. Buy one of these phones because you - Want a 'free' phone to exist in the future - Want an open source phone to exist in the future - Want a secure phone to exist in the future It may n…
Is it possible to buy one of those phones? As in I pay and get a physical thing for the money in a couple of days? I ask because I wanted to buy a Firefox OS phone and it was impossible. There were preorders and non-official compatible terminals, but the official, all hardware working, reasonably featured ones were impossible to get.
Not yet. These are just the development kits.
Apparently the phone is due in Q2 2019, though I find that unlikely.
I do have one of their laptops. I paid and got it a week later, so they have shipped things.