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Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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I seriously do not understand anyone in the Bay Area that’s anti development. How can you justify yourself in good conscience to be anti development when CoL is so high?

People who have vested interests in keeping it that way: NIMBYers. People who currently own homes and want to see their habitable “retirement plans” grow indefinitely. And god forbid we build apartment complexes greater than 5 stories all over the Bay Area. We wouldn’t want anyone’s glorious viewshed of the surrounding yellow hills to be blocked. Of course, increasing housing density highlights other problems: terrib…

Yes. People can be generally pro-development and also oppose development that just consists of sticking tall apartment buildings here and there while leaving public transit, auto infrastructure, and other public works as an exercise for the indefinite future.

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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Didn't know about the Culver City expansion, neat! There's a tremendous amount of tech talent in LA, I'm surprised they don't already have a major presence here

My guess would be that the office is from the Beats acquisition. A quick job search on their website seems to confirm that as there are a few audio/DSP positions.

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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Big corps love to brag about "adding jobs", but don't like to brag about the "tax incentives" they are getting. There are usually huge costs for the whole community. Austin tax incentives for Apple seem to be relatively small [1], but Foxconn factory in Wisconsin is an extreme case. I highly recommend the Replay All podcast episode on this [2][3] [1] https://www.statesman.com/news/20120901/austin-council-oks-8... [2]…

Well, there's going to be tax revenue coming from those jobs even if there are less or no taxes to the business itself, before you even consider the money that those employees and potentially even the business itself will spend within the community. I don't think it's as simple as tax incentives inherently being a cost for the community.

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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Big corps love to brag about "adding jobs", but don't like to brag about the "tax incentives" they are getting. There are usually huge costs for the whole community. Austin tax incentives for Apple seem to be relatively small [1], but Foxconn factory in Wisconsin is an extreme case. I highly recommend the Replay All podcast episode on this [2][3] [1] https://www.statesman.com/news/20120901/austin-council-oks-8... [2]…

Well, there's going to be tax revenue coming from those jobs even if there are less or no taxes to the business itself, before you even consider the money that those employees and potentially even the business itself will spend within the community. I don't think it's as simple as tax incentives inherently being a cost for the community.

You're being downvoted, but nobody is engaging with the sensible points that you're making.

While viewing these in the lens of a corporate handout, it is definitely a practice that deserves a close look, pretending that entire state governmental bodies in the US are acting outside of their own best interest (both fiscally and politically) deserves a conversation

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there's going to be tax revenue coming from those jobs even if there are less or no taxes to the business itself, before you even consider the money that those employees and potentially even the business itself will spend within the community. I don't think it's as simple as tax incentives inherently being a cost for the community.

You're being downvoted, but nobody is engaging with the sensible points that you're making. While viewing these in the lens of a corporate handout, it is definitely a practice that deserves a close look, pretending that entire state governmental bodies in the US are acting outside of their own best interest (both fiscally and politically) deserves a conversation

I suspect subsidies are often excessive, in part because they often arise as part of a bidding war. But that doesn't mean that localities should never provide incentives to encourage companies (and jobs) to locate in a particular location. To think otherwise more or less means that it's not the job of government to take specific actions to encourage job growth, which doesn't seem like a generally sensible opinion.

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who have vested interests in keeping it that way: NIMBYers. People who currently own homes and want to see their habitable “retirement plans” grow indefinitely. And god forbid we build apartment complexes greater than 5 stories all over the Bay Area. We wouldn’t want anyone’s glorious viewshed of the surrounding yellow hills to be blocked. Of course, increasing housing density highlights other problems: terrib…

Yes. People can be generally pro-development and also oppose development that just consists of sticking tall apartment buildings here and there while leaving public transit, auto infrastructure, and other public works as an exercise for the indefinite future.

This doesn't make much sense. Transit follows population. You wouldn't build transit before there was a need for it.

Re: Apple to build campus in Austin and sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City

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post #8

Big corps love to brag about "adding jobs", but don't like to brag about the "tax incentives" they are getting. There are usually huge costs for the whole community. Austin tax incentives for Apple seem to be relatively small [1], but Foxconn factory in Wisconsin is an extreme case. I highly recommend the Replay All podcast episode on this [2][3] [1] https://www.statesman.com/news/20120901/austin-council-oks-8... [2]…

VIPs don’t have to pay to get in to nightclubs. Do you think that’s a huge cost? If so, why would club owners agree to it?
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