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Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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post #6

So now I’m just waiting to hear Microsoft is switching its kernel to Linux. Especially after the switch to chromium.

Not sure if a joke, but I'd absolutely love this. I, as a consumer, would gladly pay good money to be able to use Outlook and the MS Office suite. Regardless of what anyone claims, the linux alternatives are useable but not nearly as good. I used to use Windows with Cygwin, but found I spent way more time doing linux-y things than Windows-y things...so switched away.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#13
It's interesting that their ssh-agent runs as a service under an Administrator account. I'd guess this is an attempt to better protect the private key against theft during a local compromise (i.e. unlocked computer left running on your desk).

I haven't seen this done on Linux. Has this trick been implemented on other systems?

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#14
post #10

Now all they have to do is switch their kernel to linux, their gui to kde and get their office suite to LibreOffice, and Windows will be the perfect computer.

Windows ux is better out of the box than on any Linux so far, it's really polished.

The office suite is also much better than alternatives.

So just switching the kernel to Linux would be enough and super winrar.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#15
post #10

Now all they have to do is switch their kernel to linux, their gui to kde and get their office suite to LibreOffice, and Windows will be the perfect computer.

I don’t use LibreOffice or Office anymore, but is Libre actually a better product?

It's not. Office is much better. Unfortunately :-(

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#17

It's available out of the box in Windows 10 April 2018 Update, as well. Just pop open a Command Prompt and type "ssh."

Actually, note that Windows 10 has the OpenSSH client, "ssh", but to my knowledge, does not include the ability to be an OpenSSH server.

EDIT: 1803 build appparently can get OpenSSH Server running, but it's "a bit of work": https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-insta...

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#18

It's interesting that their ssh-agent runs as a service under an Administrator account. I'd guess this is an attempt to better protect the private key against theft during a local compromise (i.e. unlocked computer left running on your desk). I haven't seen this done on Linux. Has this trick been implemented on other systems?

Useful reading:

https://blog.netspi.com/stealing-unencrypted-ssh-agent-keys-...

https://blog.ropnop.com/extracting-ssh-private-keys-from-win...

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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post #6

So now I’m just waiting to hear Microsoft is switching its kernel to Linux. Especially after the switch to chromium.

From what I understand NT already abstracts Win 32/64 APIs roughly the same way it abstracts the POSIX ones -- if they switched to Linux kernel + an abstraction layer for Win 64 (Official Microsoft Wine, basically) that's one less kernel and one less abstraction to maintain (WSL replaced by the kernel's native interface). I would happily pay for and operate such a product -- especially if I could install such a "Windows" as a subsystem upon some otherwise unmodified Linux distribution.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

#20
post #6

So now I’m just waiting to hear Microsoft is switching its kernel to Linux. Especially after the switch to chromium.

The irony is, with Windows 10/2019, it's the other way around: Linux has switched its kernel to NT. See WSL.
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