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Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by mirimir »

robax wrote: post #10
wizardforhire wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also little known fact I was schooled on recently while working on a film with a guy who was close friends with Warhol and was at a lot of silver factory parties... Warhol never did drugs! He would sit in the back and watch the crowd but rarely interact. I was severely reprimanded for suggesting Warhol did drugs in that conversation.

In the movie Take Your Pills, they mention Warhol taking a drug similar to Adderall. Wikipedia says it was Obetrol[1]. As an amphetamine I imagine it had a profound effect on him and his art. Though it is fascinating that he never participated in parties. That is totally not the narrative I bought into with him. How good at fooling us he was. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obetrol

He was always observing.

Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by tchaffee »

wizardforhire wrote: post #9
kirsebaer wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all in this article: Warhol was a devoted Catholic his entire life. "He attended Mass almost daily. Other days he would just slip into St Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue, drop into the back pew and pray. He spent his Thanksgivings, Christmases and Easters volunteering at a soup kitchen, and befriended the homeless and poor whom he served. He put his nephew through seminary. Though openly gay, he e…

Also little known fact I was schooled on recently while working on a film with a guy who was close friends with Warhol and was at a lot of silver factory parties... Warhol never did drugs! He would sit in the back and watch the crowd but rarely interact. I was severely reprimanded for suggesting Warhol did drugs in that conversation.

He took prescription speed daily. And supposedly was sneaky about taking other drugs. So yes, he mostly didn't openly participate in the drug scene. But it's less clear what he did privately.

http://www.warholstars.org/warhol/warhol1/warhol1c/warhol1cl...

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Post by lapnitnelav »

Fricken wrote: post #5
kirsebaer wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all in this article: Warhol was a devoted Catholic his entire life. "He attended Mass almost daily. Other days he would just slip into St Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue, drop into the back pew and pray. He spent his Thanksgivings, Christmases and Easters volunteering at a soup kitchen, and befriended the homeless and poor whom he served. He put his nephew through seminary. Though openly gay, he e…

I never knew that. A while back I was surprised to find out that Marshall McLuhan, the media theorist and pop-intellectual who was big in the late 60s and 70s was also a devout Catholic. McLuhan's ruminations into how the internet or what he called "peer to peer electronic media" would affect us socially are more insightful than anything anyone is saying today, though at the time it was largely a bunch of cryptic gob…

McLuhan's on the new media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeDnPP6ntic (starts at 2.45)

Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by kurosawa »

Fricken wrote: post #5
kirsebaer wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all in this article: Warhol was a devoted Catholic his entire life. "He attended Mass almost daily. Other days he would just slip into St Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue, drop into the back pew and pray. He spent his Thanksgivings, Christmases and Easters volunteering at a soup kitchen, and befriended the homeless and poor whom he served. He put his nephew through seminary. Though openly gay, he e…

I never knew that. A while back I was surprised to find out that Marshall McLuhan, the media theorist and pop-intellectual who was big in the late 60s and 70s was also a devout Catholic. McLuhan's ruminations into how the internet or what he called "peer to peer electronic media" would affect us socially are more insightful than anything anyone is saying today, though at the time it was largely a bunch of cryptic gob…

His faith background plays out more explicitly in his doctoral thesis; several ideas therein were precursors to his later-popularized notions:

https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Trivium-Place-Thomas-Learni...

Short review summarizing the work: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Phil_Rose/publication/3...

Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by blue4 »

mirimir wrote: post #11
robax wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the movie Take Your Pills, they mention Warhol taking a drug similar to Adderall. Wikipedia says it was Obetrol[1]. As an amphetamine I imagine it had a profound effect on him and his art. Though it is fascinating that he never participated in parties. That is totally not the narrative I bought into with him. How good at fooling us he was. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obetrol

He was always observing.

Someone you would refer to as boring and creepy

Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by Juliate »

wisdomoftheages wrote: post #6
kirsebaer wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all in this article: Warhol was a devoted Catholic his entire life. "He attended Mass almost daily. Other days he would just slip into St Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue, drop into the back pew and pray. He spent his Thanksgivings, Christmases and Easters volunteering at a soup kitchen, and befriended the homeless and poor whom he served. He put his nephew through seminary. Though openly gay, he e…

This is only partially true; he was devoutly Catholic, but he also had numerous male sexual partners.

And so what? The former doesn't exclude the latter.

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Post by [deleted] »

wisdomoftheages wrote: post #6
kirsebaer wrote: post #2

Not mentioned at all in this article: Warhol was a devoted Catholic his entire life. "He attended Mass almost daily. Other days he would just slip into St Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue, drop into the back pew and pray. He spent his Thanksgivings, Christmases and Easters volunteering at a soup kitchen, and befriended the homeless and poor whom he served. He put his nephew through seminary. Though openly gay, he e…

This is only partially true; he was devoutly Catholic, but he also had numerous male sexual partners.

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Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by mirimir »

blue4 wrote: post #15
mirimir wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was always observing.

Someone you would refer to as boring and creepy

Also, very intelligent, imaginative, talented, and creative. But still, I admit, creepy.

I'm reminded of Marilyn Manson, née Brian Hugh Warner. Not to compare them, of course. But according to his autobiography, The Long Hard Road Out of Hell, he was also "boring and creepy" as a child. But somehow he made it work. As did Warhol, on a much larger scale.

Re: Warhol’s Bleak Prophecy

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Post by wisdomoftheages »

Juliate wrote: post #17
wisdomoftheages wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only partially true; he was devoutly Catholic, but he also had numerous male sexual partners.

And so what? The former doesn't exclude the latter.

Of course not. But one shouldn’t repeat untrue facts, especially when they come from a source with an agenda.
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