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Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost

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Re: Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost

#11
I haven't worked on Wall Street for about 10 years, but when I did it was unbelievably misogynistic. None of our dozens of partners were women. The younger partners referred to their wives as "my first wife" while they were still married to them. The older ones of course were all on their third or fourth marriage. And the president of the firm, who was old enough to personally remember the Hindenburg disaster, just went around grabbing the secretaries' asses.

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#12

So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

When there have already been numerous well-documented instances of people making false accusations that absolutely RUIN THE LIVES of the defendants, it can hardly be a surprise that people with a lot to lose would take drastic, if ill-though-out, measures to protect themselves from that possibility. As another comment said, even when the false accusations are found to be false, it's usually too late for the defendant, and their life has already been ruined. The only way this gets fixes is if we stop implicitly believing people who accuse someone of a crime, just because of the nature of that crime. Innocent until proven guilty applies globally, not based on context or scandals.

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#13
post #6

So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

From the article: “Some men have voiced concerns to me that a false accusation is what they fear,” said Zweig, the lawyer. “These men fear what they cannot control.”

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So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

The rolling stone article is a great example of how an entirely false claim can still end someone's career and life, even when it's debunked beyond doubt. Companies are risk adverse - they would never hire someone with a public claim against them even if the claim was shown to be false.

Why run the risk that you get a sociopath who will make a false claim for their own gain?

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#17

So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

Men treating women like humans do (i.e. being attracted to the opposite sex, etc.) is what is now a problem.

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#18
post #8

Nothing new. A professor I had 25 years ago would always keep the door open if he had a female student during office hours.

Boy scouts have been doing this for decades, the rule was you were never to be alone with an adult you weren't related to.

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post #17

So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

Men treating women like humans do (i.e. being attracted to the opposite sex, etc.) is what is now a problem.

attraction is not the problem

Re: Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost

#20

So as a father of two daughters in their 20's, this makes me sad. Instead of attempting to see women as equals and moving to bridge the gap -- the best solution Wall Street can come up with is to further isolate themselves? Why can't these men just learn to treat women like the humans they are?

Maybe treating people like humans means being paranoid about them, especially in a pit of snakes like Wall St.?
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