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AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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Very cool! Now if only I had a satellite to use it with... How much demand would there be for this type of offering?

I could imagine companies like Planet using this for more points of presence. You only get tiny windows of time to download bits from satellites to ground stations and you have limited storage capacity. Additional ground sites could really help companies get more data out of fewer craft.

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Finally true cloud computing /ducks/

But there are no clouds in space! Unless your particular spacecraft is flying through the Oort cloud I suppose, but surely there's not so many of those satellites out there that would make it worthwhile for AWS to start an entire service for that?

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Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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post #9

Very cool! Now if only I had a satellite to use it with... How much demand would there be for this type of offering?

I guess the idea is that if the connection weren't encrypted you could listen to anything out there (like satellites used for transmitting weather information to ships at sea).

There is a fairly narrow cone you would need to be in to intercept the data but if its intelligence related then it’s definitely encrypted thanks to export laws. ITAR and EAR https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/encryption

Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

#14

Very cool! Now if only I had a satellite to use it with... How much demand would there be for this type of offering?

Nearly all satellites up there are basically spectrum for rent. You can call a satellite operator and get a quote for bandwidth per region.

Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess the idea is that if the connection weren't encrypted you could listen to anything out there (like satellites used for transmitting weather information to ships at sea).

There is a fairly narrow cone you would need to be in to intercept the data but if its intelligence related then it’s definitely encrypted thanks to export laws. ITAR and EAR https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/encryption

There are no “export laws” requiring encryption of satellite transmission data. Export laws wouldn’t apply anyway.

As a constructive counter example, there are plenty of free services you can tune into.

Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a fairly narrow cone you would need to be in to intercept the data but if its intelligence related then it’s definitely encrypted thanks to export laws. ITAR and EAR https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/encryption

There are no “export laws” requiring encryption of satellite transmission data. Export laws wouldn’t apply anyway. As a constructive counter example, there are plenty of free services you can tune into.

Of intelligence data there is. Read up on ITAR and EAR. So you don’t think that the satellites AWS will interface with will be facing earth with sensors?

Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess the idea is that if the connection weren't encrypted you could listen to anything out there (like satellites used for transmitting weather information to ships at sea).

There is a fairly narrow cone you would need to be in to intercept the data but if its intelligence related then it’s definitely encrypted thanks to export laws. ITAR and EAR https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/encryption

Some might be encrypted, but I don't think they are all encrypted:

https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-receiving-noaa-weat...

Usually the export laws and restrictions (ITAR) refer to the technology used to launch the satellites, not the data they downlink.

But if you had the key, you could also use encrypted satellite data.

(Edit note: the parent changed their text to say intelligence data, which is obviously not what I was talking about)

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a fairly narrow cone you would need to be in to intercept the data but if its intelligence related then it’s definitely encrypted thanks to export laws. ITAR and EAR https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/encryption

Some might be encrypted, but I don't think they are all encrypted: https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-receiving-noaa-weat... Usually the export laws and restrictions (ITAR) refer to the technology used to launch the satellites, not the data they downlink. But if you had the key, you could also use encrypted satellite data. (Edit note: the parent changed their text to say intelligence data, which is obviously no…

Pretty sure NOAA also regulates the use and encryption of the data collected. Also the keys are typically in an HSM with lots of security protocol and air gap, so good luck with that.

Re: AWS Ground Station – Ingest and Process Data from Orbiting Satellites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no “export laws” requiring encryption of satellite transmission data. Export laws wouldn’t apply anyway. As a constructive counter example, there are plenty of free services you can tune into.

Of intelligence data there is. Read up on ITAR and EAR. So you don’t think that the satellites AWS will interface with will be facing earth with sensors?

I’ve worked in an ITAR industry. This topic isn’t about intelligence data :)
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