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Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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I don't know why anyone would visit a country with such insane laws, it's just too dangerous. Sure they seem to have a lot of interesting stuff going on and to see, but a big fat NOPE after you read anything about their rules and how they treat people!

Like what? It's a very popular tourist destination. Yes, they treat immigrants bad but calling it dangerous for tourists?

Like this may be? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/british...

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

#12
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Article is light on details other than to say he was carrying out “legitimate academic research into security policy following the Arab spring”. Let’s say that someone from say China came to the US to stake out airports and study the US’s airport security protocol. I’m not sure the outcome would be much different. Even if this was all totally above board it Seems a bit naive to think this isn’t something that you sho…

If my memory serves me right the guy was caught a year or two ago and was under heavy investigation by UAE counter-intelligence team.

And a life sentence is not something UAE courts would hand out lightly, especially in these circumstances.

My best guess is that UAE have not got what it asked for to release the guy pre-trial, but will get something now and sheikh will pardon the guy next week.

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

#13

I don't know why anyone would visit a country with such insane laws, it's just too dangerous. Sure they seem to have a lot of interesting stuff going on and to see, but a big fat NOPE after you read anything about their rules and how they treat people!

Look at Japan: 23-day police custody period. After that there’s a 99.99% confession rate. Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan, seems to have just discovered it: He will be interrogated for 12 days. I would never go to such countries.

That is the conviction rate, not the confession rate. Which has completely different connotations.

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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post #12
post #7

Article is light on details other than to say he was carrying out “legitimate academic research into security policy following the Arab spring”. Let’s say that someone from say China came to the US to stake out airports and study the US’s airport security protocol. I’m not sure the outcome would be much different. Even if this was all totally above board it Seems a bit naive to think this isn’t something that you sho…

If my memory serves me right the guy was caught a year or two ago and was under heavy investigation by UAE counter-intelligence team. And a life sentence is not something UAE courts would hand out lightly, especially in these circumstances. My best guess is that UAE have not got what it asked for to release the guy pre-trial, but will get something now and sheikh will pardon the guy next week.

According to an earlier article [1] he was detained in May, seemingly of this year.

1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-45871581

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If my memory serves me right the guy was caught a year or two ago and was under heavy investigation by UAE counter-intelligence team. And a life sentence is not something UAE courts would hand out lightly, especially in these circumstances. My best guess is that UAE have not got what it asked for to release the guy pre-trial, but will get something now and sheikh will pardon the guy next week.

According to an earlier article [1] he was detained in May, seemingly of this year. 1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-45871581

Okay, half a year ago.

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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Surely even if he is a spy, the UK will eventually be able to negotiate his release? How many years could this take? UAE has a lot of revenue from tourism, I don't know how much of that is from the UK, but I assume that provides enough leverage to get something going. I just don't see a life sentence being a true life sentence for any citizen Westerner caught by a nation like the UAE.

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post #12
post #7

Article is light on details other than to say he was carrying out “legitimate academic research into security policy following the Arab spring”. Let’s say that someone from say China came to the US to stake out airports and study the US’s airport security protocol. I’m not sure the outcome would be much different. Even if this was all totally above board it Seems a bit naive to think this isn’t something that you sho…

If my memory serves me right the guy was caught a year or two ago and was under heavy investigation by UAE counter-intelligence team. And a life sentence is not something UAE courts would hand out lightly, especially in these circumstances. My best guess is that UAE have not got what it asked for to release the guy pre-trial, but will get something now and sheikh will pardon the guy next week.

Is it your belief that the UAE generally conservative with their prison sentences? What about the guy who had a piece of marijuana, invisible to the naked eye, smaller than a grain of sugar(0.003g), on his shoe - who was jailed for 4 years?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512815/Briton-jaile...

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

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post #10

I don't know why anyone would visit a country with such insane laws, it's just too dangerous. Sure they seem to have a lot of interesting stuff going on and to see, but a big fat NOPE after you read anything about their rules and how they treat people!

Like what? It's a very popular tourist destination. Yes, they treat immigrants bad but calling it dangerous for tourists?

Can you tell me what is so interesting to see in these countries that it’s worth potentially sacrificing your freedom or your life for what we consider minor infractions?

Re: Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E

#20
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? It's a very popular tourist destination. Yes, they treat immigrants bad but calling it dangerous for tourists?

Can you tell me what is so interesting to see in these countries that it’s worth potentially sacrificing your freedom or your life for what we consider minor infractions?

> for what we consider minor infractions?

International spying in this case? I'm not sure thats a minor infraction

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