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Why Aren't There C Conferences?
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Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
The main problem with that is there is no single C community. Imagine trying to get ANSI C, Win32 C, GNU C and every flavor of embedded C together.
Nonsense, that is the C community. They need to be put in a room together to sort out their differences. The differences exist due to communication breakdown which leads to divergence over time.
What about the various RTOS people or embedded firmware people? Or the mathematicians... or the...
It's like saying, "Let's get everyone who speaks English speakers together to agree on our favorite tea."
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#13Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#14Good question, but a majority of this post is links to cppcon videos. (I do appreciate the shoutout to LLVM). I think the C community: * Should have a C conference. * Actually be more aggressive in adding features to the language. For example, there are some really great GNU C extensions that are long overdue be added to the standard. Compiler vendors should work with the standards bodies more, rather than shipping l…
I strongly disagree. C should is adding langauge features at a pace other languages could stand to emulate. C is stable, trusted, and supported everywhere for this very reason. Codebases should not be using extensions, and Linux is wrong to do so.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#15All programming conferences are C conferences, if you think about it.
I don't see how that follows at all.
If you're implying all program languages are derived from C, that's simply false. Lisp is based on the lambda calculus and predates C, as one easy counter-example.
If you're implying that all languages run on top of C, that's also false. Theoretical Lisp Machines [0] have been envisioned which do not run C anywhere, and many languages (rust, go, etc) can be built into unikernals that run on real hardware with no C anywhere in the mix.
As far as I can tell, your statement is both pointless and wrong in even a generous interpretation of it.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#16Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.
> best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.
That is the point of conferences. Meeting like minded people and having interesting conversations.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#17Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.
Socializing with like-minded people is a pretty valuable thing, actually. In fact I would say that it's the only reason conferences ever existed.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#18All programming conferences are C conferences, if you think about it.
I don't see how that follows at all. If you're implying all program languages are derived from C, that's simply false. Lisp is based on the lambda calculus and predates C, as one easy counter-example. If you're implying that all languages run on top of C, that's also false. Theoretical Lisp Machines [0] have been envisioned which do not run C anywhere, and many languages (rust, go, etc) can be built into unikernals t…
Show me a lisp which is used by enough people to fill a conference in 2018 that isn't implemented in C. Show me a lisp machine which was manufactured any time in the past 10 years.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#19Because though there might be building trades conferences, there are no hammer conferences. Oh, there will be tool vendors at the building trades conferences, there might be sessions on "Efficient Hammering Techniques Using Machine Learning", but there are no conferences about hammers. Don't forget about the blacksmith conference next week, they'll have hammer vendors, too.
I dunno, a Ruby conference kinda makes sense because one will mostly build web sites with it, so it's really going to be a "Building $FOO with $TOOL" kind of thing. But C is so widely used, it's like having that HammerFest 2019 with everyone from people splitting wood with a sledghammer to jewelers with their teensy little tapping tools. I just don't see the diamond workers drinking with the lumberjacks at the hotel bar after hours. :-) I jest, but it's mostly about networking anyway, otherwise just watch the videos online.
Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?
#20Lets be honest: conferences exist to waste time. Nothing productive gets done on conferences and best thing you can take our from them is to socialize with like-minded people.
No. Conferences will have learning and training sessions. Conferences will have reps from customers, partners and vendors you work with or are thinking of working with. And yes, you can use this time to also connect with like-minded people.