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The Vacuum Tube’s Many Modern-Day Uses

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The article briefly mentions magnetrons and X-ray tubes, the former of which is made in massive quantities today for consumer appliances. Other vacuum tubes in current use include the vacuum fluorescent display, the photomultiplier tube and the electron multiplier tube. I believe old school vacuum tubes also still have application in high-wattage class-C RF power amps. Vacuum tubes for audio receive a lot of lip serv…

I think you mean traveling wave tubes for high power RF amplifiers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling-wave_tube

There are also klystrons, which are oscillators, used for high power radar generation, particle accelerators, etc... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klystron

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People who are interested in vacuum tube technology might enjoy the following youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab

A counter channel (hilarious guy revives old TVs sitting out in the desert for 50 years). He's the voice of LA:

https://www.youtube.com/user/shango066/videos

Also, make your own tubes (in Texas while wearing a dress):

https://www.youtube.com/user/glasslinger/videos

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And of course, there's the Nixie tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxL4ElboiuA

(Previously posted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12623738, the maker's web site via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12308974, and covered in an IEEE article via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17397133)

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High power RF transmitters are still a notable realm of tubes.

True, but apparently not any more in the broadcast industry. To make a 50 KW AM station these days, you use 50 1 KW solid state amplifiers and combine their outputs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXh23qrPniM

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What this article doesn't mention is why vacuum tubes are still used in guitar amplifiers:

The "distorted guitar" sound common in rock music is a direct result of nonlinear characteristics of tube amps (both the tubes themselves and the coupling transformers necessary to connect an output tube to a speaker). Tubes exhibit "soft clipping" when pushed to their limits, which has the effect of producing the harmonic content associated with distorted electric guitar. Rock and roll pioneers got their sound principally from driving tube amps past their limits. "Overdrive" pedals are usually just voltage boosters that make the amp's input signal louder, but this pushes the amplifier past its clean linear section into the nonlinear crunchy overdrive that guitar players want.

Modern tube guitar amplifiers, even "new" designs, generally follow one a handful of basic circuit topologies, all derived from a few classic designs. Even the iconic Marshall "Plexi" amp was a close copy of an earlier Fender. These circuits are extremely simple; a handful of tubes, transformers, and passive components, often less complicated than the internals of a single LM741. Here's an example: https://www.thetubestore.com/lib/thetubestore/schematics/Fen...

It's possible to mostly recreate this sound with digital signal processing or carefully-tuned solid-state analog circuitry, but players like the sound of tube amps and are willing to pay for them, and so the market exists as it does.

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What this article doesn't mention is why vacuum tubes are still used in guitar amplifiers: The "distorted guitar" sound common in rock music is a direct result of nonlinear characteristics of tube amps (both the tubes themselves and the coupling transformers necessary to connect an output tube to a speaker). Tubes exhibit "soft clipping" when pushed to their limits, which has the effect of producing the harmonic cont…

Capacitors are also important:

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/3-Classi...

Some old leaky "bumblebee" capacitor is worth $75 if it happens to be the .022 uF value found in certain guitar tone control circuits.

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What this article doesn't mention is why vacuum tubes are still used in guitar amplifiers: The "distorted guitar" sound common in rock music is a direct result of nonlinear characteristics of tube amps (both the tubes themselves and the coupling transformers necessary to connect an output tube to a speaker). Tubes exhibit "soft clipping" when pushed to their limits, which has the effect of producing the harmonic cont…

I’ve found that a really good proxy for how good an amp sounds is the number of line-items in he BOM. The fewer the better.

A lot of the classic designs that sound good and still sell have exactly what they need to get the job done well and no more. It’s almost like all the major (and boutique) amp manufacturers took one of three or so amp designs and just threw components at the schematic until you couldn’t recognize it right away, and sell it as some revolutionary design. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that it it all came from some RCA reference design in 1950

Re: The Vacuum Tube’s Many Modern-Day Uses

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What this article doesn't mention is why vacuum tubes are still used in guitar amplifiers: The "distorted guitar" sound common in rock music is a direct result of nonlinear characteristics of tube amps (both the tubes themselves and the coupling transformers necessary to connect an output tube to a speaker). Tubes exhibit "soft clipping" when pushed to their limits, which has the effect of producing the harmonic cont…

Don't forget that transistors have a different and more loud background noise that vacuum tubes. I don't appreciate the difference but I know that some people could notice and appreciate the different kind of noise.
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