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Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

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Re: Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

#11

So you've decided to give up programming, then? Because otherwise, it's not.

It depends. If he writes and supports all of his own programs and has success doing so it very well could be. Computers don't care, just as long as it compiles down or uses standardized interfaces.

If he plans to live a lot longer, hire a lot of employees, or collaborate with others on code, then your statement could be valid.

Re: Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

#14
> Because, you see, as soon as I saw Java, I knew I hated it. I have never written even a single line of Java code, not for money, and definitely not for fun. I think that I already knew, deep down, that it would change me, as a coder. For the worse.

That's just like how I've never been to Argentina, but I saw a picture of it in a magazine and knew for sure that I would hate the country. I had a feeling deep down.

/sarcasm

Re: Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

#15

So you've decided to give up programming, then? Because otherwise, it's not.

Considering the glacial place at which the industry adopts new languages and paradigms and the trend for weaker languages to tend towards Lisp in terms of features over time, I dunno ... it may be the last interesting production language he learns in his lifetime (Lisp is 50 years old after all and many people are still just now really discovering it).

For me the only other trending language that seems to offer dramatically new ideas for production oriented projects is Haskell. And quite of few of its great ideas have been folded into Clojure.

Re: Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

#16

> Because, you see, as soon as I saw Java, I knew I hated it. I have never written even a single line of Java code, not for money, and definitely not for fun. I think that I already knew, deep down, that it would change me, as a coder. For the worse. That's just like how I've never been to Argentina, but I saw a picture of it in a magazine and knew for sure that I would hate the country. I had a feeling deep down. /s…

Except Java has a poor reputation (on the "fun to program in" scale) and not much in the way of intellectual growth for a programmer (in terms of new, effective paradigms for coding). This is a generalization of the opinions I've read about it, in addition to my own experience.

It's like hearing all your friends saying how much they hated Argentina, and how you would too. They might be wrong, or not, but you still trust them because they think the same way as you.

Re: Home at Last, or, The Last Programming Language I Will Ever Learn

#17
My mentor (Art Mellor – scumpa.com) at Cayman Systems gave me two pieces of advice that have stayed with me to this day:

• When you start your company, start it by doing consulting. (See, he already knew I’d caught the Bug.) Get paid to learn the space and develop for your customers, using their expertise and funding, and then turn all that into a product.

• Learn LISP.

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