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Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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I sure hope the EU hasn't given in to the DUP. But since May won't get anything through parliament, it's probably a moot point.

[edit] w/e

Opinions are partisan? Your comment lacks substance. That may be why it's being downvoted (for the record I didn't downvote you).

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

#12
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corbyn wants Brexit to happen he’ll whip Labour into passing it.

I mean they can disobey the whip. He should have the self awareness that trying that could result in Labour collapsing like the LibDems did.

He already has caused more harm than good to the Labour Party over his stance on Brexit.

He’s been a Euroskeptic since the 70’s he sees the EU as a neoliberal capitalistic endeavor which stands against everything he stands for.

Over the past 2 years now he showed no opposition to Brexit which goes against the wishes of his party members and their constituents and against the ideals of being an opposition party.

I really don’t see him changing his tune now as he showed he is incapable of letting his own ideals take the backseat to the will of the party.

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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post #2

I sure hope the EU hasn't given in to the DUP. But since May won't get anything through parliament, it's probably a moot point.

My expectation is that everyone is going to suddenly fall into line and she'll get it through.

May's play is to delay as much as possible and then at last moment call Parliament to vote, when there really is no more time left to negotiate. Then Parliament only has to choice of "no deal" or "May's deal" and she seems to hope for enough votes for her's ... sad times

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

#14

This all seems to be entirely moot, given that there is a slim chance of this deal getting through parliament - assuming it’s anything like it’s expected to be. What a colossal waste of time.

Do you expect May to resign if it doesn't pass?

NB I have no idea what is going to happen over the next while.

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

#15

This all seems to be entirely moot, given that there is a slim chance of this deal getting through parliament - assuming it’s anything like it’s expected to be. What a colossal waste of time.

Do you expect May to resign if it doesn't pass? NB I have no idea what is going to happen over the next while.

I don’t see how she can stay in her position, but then I’ve been so baffled by what’s happened lately that anything’s now possible.

You’re not alone, FWIW. I’m pretty sure literally nobody knows how this is going to play out.

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corbyn wants Brexit to happen he’ll whip Labour into passing it.

Labour's position is to vote against the Chequer's agreement.

Labour’s position should be to oppose Brexit and to remain or rejoin, that is not however Corbyn’s position it never was and for the past 2 years he showed that he is not fit as a leader because he can’t bend his ideals to the will of his party.

Corbyn wants socialism, he want to nationalize the industries he wants to get rid of the neoliberal keynesian economics which the EU and every other social democracy in Europe promotes and follows he doesn’t want to be in the EU he was against the U.K. joining the EU in the first place and he didn’t do anything to prevent it from leaving.

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean they can disobey the whip. He should have the self awareness that trying that could result in Labour collapsing like the LibDems did.

He already has caused more harm than good to the Labour Party over his stance on Brexit. He’s been a Euroskeptic since the 70’s he sees the EU as a neoliberal capitalistic endeavor which stands against everything he stands for. Over the past 2 years now he showed no opposition to Brexit which goes against the wishes of his party members and their constituents and against the ideals of being an opposition party. I rea…

> he showed he is incapable of letting his own ideals take the backseat to the will of the party

A trait that has garnered him many followers.

Re: Brexit: UK and EU 'agree text' of draft withdrawal agreement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Labour's position is to vote against the Chequer's agreement.

Labour’s position should be to oppose Brexit and to remain or rejoin, that is not however Corbyn’s position it never was and for the past 2 years he showed that he is not fit as a leader because he can’t bend his ideals to the will of his party. Corbyn wants socialism, he want to nationalize the industries he wants to get rid of the neoliberal keynesian economics which the EU and every other social democracy in Europ…

> Labour’s position should be to oppose Brexit and to remain or rejoin

Why? It hasn't been agreed at conference.

There's a party for Remainers that want to ignore the referendum result they're called the Liberal Democrats or the SNP if you are up in Scotland.

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