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Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #8

How anonymous do you want to be? Are you trying to hide from the recipient only, or also from their payment processors, or the government? Each of these requirements has different solutions.

Not OP but if I wanted to donate without revealing identity to the recipient, what are my options?

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #8

How anonymous do you want to be? Are you trying to hide from the recipient only, or also from their payment processors, or the government? Each of these requirements has different solutions.

Do note that another term for absolute anonymous donations is "funding terrorism". So good luck hiding your donations entirely.

I suspect a sibling comment is correct - buy a visa/etc giftcard (perhaps with cash) and use that to donate online if the recipient accepts online payments - or send the card details via email, or the card via snail mail?

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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I think, long term, the best solution is something like GNU Taler[1] which is anonymous (for consumers) e-Cash system. It doesn't require cryptocurrencies or anything, it can work with VISA or PayPal just as easily.

And it's auditable, so that governments can still tax businesses (which avoids the fear that governments have around large-scale, automated and fully-anonymous payments).

[1]: https://taler.net/en/index.html

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #12
post #8

How anonymous do you want to be? Are you trying to hide from the recipient only, or also from their payment processors, or the government? Each of these requirements has different solutions.

Do note that another term for absolute anonymous donations is "funding terrorism". So good luck hiding your donations entirely . I suspect a sibling comment is correct - buy a visa/etc giftcard (perhaps with cash) and use that to donate online if the recipient accepts online payments - or send the card details via email, or the card via snail mail?

Or more commonly "money laundering"

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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So far as I'm aware, the person behind https://pineapplefund.org/ is still unknown. Perhaps that's a good place to start.

If you're using fiat (USD, EUR, RMB, etc.) I would assume the only anonymous method is cash, or an instrument purchased with cash (money order, prepaid gift card, etc), mailed from a public mailbox with no return address, but of course that raises its own problems of ensuring delivery.

For fiat, I doubt any electronic method offers any real protection against subpoena, etc.

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #8

How anonymous do you want to be? Are you trying to hide from the recipient only, or also from their payment processors, or the government? Each of these requirements has different solutions.

Not OP but if I wanted to donate without revealing identity to the recipient, what are my options?

Depending on the recipient's fraud checks you can simply use your credit card but use a fake name & address; if they don't decline the transaction then that's all you have to do.

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

#17
it's not for everyone, but we use a Donor Advised Fund for anonymous giving:

https://www.schwabcharitable.org/public/charitable/home

You donate the money to a nonprofit run by Schwab, and then later you can tell them to donate it to any tax-deductible nonprofit, one time or on a schedule, and to either include your name with the gift or not.

We like it for (a) commitment (it's easier to set a goal to give X% of your income if you can just fire off one check every month) (b) simpler taxes (c) anonymity (d) fun (it feels fancy, I guess).

Fees and convenience are both kind of a wash -- it's cheaper than credit card fees, and it's nice having one place to manage donations, but the interface is pretty clunky.

Downsides are the high (for us) initial buyin, hassle of initial paperwork, and being limited to tax-deductible recipients. I definitely think someone could build a better interface around the idea of online banking for donations.

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #12
post #8

How anonymous do you want to be? Are you trying to hide from the recipient only, or also from their payment processors, or the government? Each of these requirements has different solutions.

Do note that another term for absolute anonymous donations is "funding terrorism". So good luck hiding your donations entirely . I suspect a sibling comment is correct - buy a visa/etc giftcard (perhaps with cash) and use that to donate online if the recipient accepts online payments - or send the card details via email, or the card via snail mail?

That's a valid perspective, thanks for mentioning.

> buy a visa/etc giftcard

I like that suggestion the best as well.

Re: Ask HN: How do you donate online anonymously?

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post #10
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That means, that if the organziation hasn't setup an crypto address (is this the correct term?), I cannot donate?

You could always spend a few bucks and get a Visa Gift Card.

That's a simple and easy solution. I will try it out the next time, thank you!
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