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They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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So close to my own memories! Back in Sydney the mid 90s at perhaps 15 I reconfigured a modem to allow for dial-in then explored the regional network of the NSW education department remotely in the evenings. The machine was intended to serve code, which we set up for diskless network boot and distributed games like Quake for network deathmatch (we also wrote our own from scratch, eg. we had a nibbles.bas hacking competition where we modified multiplayer single keyboard versions to add features ... I recall flamethrowers, mines and lasers). We also used to play crobots. I stopped exploring the network after teachers started perplexingly asking questions if anyone was in the school computer room later in the evening. Similar to the subject of this story, it was really just curiosity, and I was also later offered a job with an ISP as a result of the control obtained, where I made my first RIP advert mistake, learned to tar to and from tape, and other such fun. Also managed to intern at Fuji-Xerox where the Unix admin department had me learn bash scripting, walked me through cabling and network topology management techniques and I got to self-educate through a broad range of Cisco online learning courses. Fun times. Years later used essentially that body of knowledge to design and operate substantial Linux clusters. I have worked in many continents in areas as diverse as embedded, clustering, mobile, digital video, finance, and now run a robotics company in China. At the time I recall I just hungered for knowledge and wanted nothing more than a teacher to point the way to new areas. One of the accidental teachers who popped up on my periphery was Julian Assange, whose strobe got me in to protocol analysis and much reading of RFCs which resulted in announcing ~1999 many discoveries of undisclosed remote OS detection techniques across protocols like ICMP, IGMP, and even ARP. I've since written a few internet standards drafts of my own. Key insight for kids in these spaces ... it's harder to create a system and defend it than to find holes in them. The parents are correct to encourage building versus breaking. Breaking is very important also, however, but should ideally be encouraged with a parallel focus on professional ethical development and perhaps anthropological/philosophical insights as a personal frame of reference in to the established national/educational/legal bureaucracies who may otherwise seek to spurn talented and unique individuals such as these.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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I'm almost surprised that school administrators are still pulling the same shit they did 19 years ago. I have basically the same story. I dropped out and got a GED after I was framed by a malicious network admin and expelled, the record of which followed me to each subsequent school. I still managed to work my way into having a career, luckily. But the effects on my family and my development as a kid were significant…

Also happened to me when I was in high school, but luckily my mom was able to convinve the school to drop everything.

The school is not only incapable of provoding a quality education for these super smart kids, but they also were exposing everyones data in a negligent and reckless way. Where is the punushment for the network admin?

Seems like the real lesson here is dont be a black hat hacker, or at least if you are gonna do that, dont get caught no matter what. The truth is if they werent minors theyd be totally fucked for this. I imagine lots of us here had similar experiences. Its natural enough to want to explore and play with this kind of thing. But life isnt fair, and that is an important lesson we all have to learn at some point.

If I knew either of these guys I would hire and mentor them right now.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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At the ETS in Amsterdam the system was set up in such a way that you only got so many compute seconds per schoolyear. I spent nearly all my budget defeating the accounting system so I could have unlimited computer access. That and drafting classes were the few interesting things in that school, the remainder was very basic electro technical and electronics stuff.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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A school system, where this level of potential and passion goes unnoticed and unharnessed for good, is a broken system. The full extent of their exploits remain unclear, due to ongoing legal action, but it should have been detected well and truly before it got to the CCTV access stage.

I'm wondering how one would break into a CCTV system without physical access. Are these systems connected to the internet?

This might not be relevant with modern systems, but about five years ago security camera systems were common where the individual cameras were connected to the local network and to watch them you would open some special program on a Windows machine. The cameras themselves had administration pages served over HTTP and they ran an ancient version of Linux.

Although I never tried, I’m guessing that all you would have to do is guess a password (not hard if it’s in a spreadsheet) to a UDP stream accessible through VLC. If you couldn’t guess the password, the software on the cameras is so old that you could find a plethora of exploits to use to get root and reset the password.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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A school system, where this level of potential and passion goes unnoticed and unharnessed for good, is a broken system. The full extent of their exploits remain unclear, due to ongoing legal action, but it should have been detected well and truly before it got to the CCTV access stage.

I'm wondering how one would break into a CCTV system without physical access. Are these systems connected to the internet?

If you're referring to the boys, they found a sticky note on a guard's laptop containing the login details.

For general cctv, many are installed to allow monitoring while away from the house. Nanny cams for example.

Installing cctv to an existing network will put it online automatically.

The most important issue to consider is these devices - routers, cameras, alarms, locks... come with default passwords. And almost no one changes them. So anyone who knows which port (Shodan search engine, port scanner) to look has a high chance of getting entry.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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If they just got in, didn't break stuff, didn't copy test papers or change grades, didn't victimise anyone - just took some electric and processing power - then they resisted a lot of temptation (or didn't realise quite the power they were holding). Give the proceeds to charity, repay the electric from their own pockets (eg by doing chores), get them on a course or give them hardware to set up comps they can hack at…

They had computers to hack legally at home. One of them was building mining computers, so apparently he had also access to money to buy hardware.

It was not lack of access or lack of outlet. It was lack of boundaries and access to school network was not the only behavioral problem mentioned in the article.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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One day (1994) during AP CompSci, my friend was looking for ways to bypass the cheap Mac System 7 lockdown software ("Mac Control" by BDW Software). He found the fill that changed during password changes, and was astonished to find it was the same length as the password. (N character password -> N byte file)

Me: That sounds trivial to break; have you tried XOR?

Friend: I'll try that now. [Tries ONE value] It's just XORing each character of the password with 0xC9!

Me: Wow, that was fast. Why did you guess 0xC9?

Friend: 0xC9 is 11001001.

Yes, my friend was a huge trekkie. ( http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/11001001_%28episode%29 )

We spent the rest of high school getting strange looks from teachers that hated that we always seemed to know their passwords, but also wanted our help fixing their computers.

Re: They Hacked Their School District When They Were 12

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Is it just me or does the story inexplicably blow up the boys tech proficiencies and then almost casually mentions that all they did was log in to school computers with credentials from a post-it on the machine itself in a public space?

How are they at fault if said credentials grants them access to unprotected sensitive records and an obviously badly exposed administration system?

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