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Facebook’s GraphQL gets its own open-source foundation

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Re: Facebook’s GraphQL gets its own open-source foundation

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Post by karmakaze »

superflyguy wrote: post #10
syn0byte wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generalization of Hanlen's razor: Never attribute to malice what can be explained by laziness/greed/stupidity. FB has GraphQL stable and doing exactly what they want it to do. Now they can pass it off to a foundation for maintenance and blame without having to pay out of pocket.

"Generalization of Hanlen's razor: Never attribute to malice what can be explained by laziness/greed/stupidity." I think OP was going for greed.

That seems an over-generalization--greed should counts as malice in spirit. [nit: Hanlon's Razor]

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

degyves wrote: post #13

Great. Another solution for an already-solved, already-standardized query API language (SPARQL).

GraphQL is not a generic query API language. One of the most unfortunate things about GraphQL is the presence of "QL" in the name makes people think it is somehow comparable to SQL or SPARQL.

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Post by krschultz »

syn0byte wrote: post #9
xrd wrote: post #6

I remember when I was at RealNetworks a long time ago and Microsoft and Real were competing over the future of multimedia languages (SMIL vs HTML+Time). I was on some of the standardization committees and remember being surprised when some of my colleagues suggested that standardization was used by companies like MS to slow down the innovation process (and catch up to faster starts like RealNetworks had made). I wond…

Generalization of Hanlen's razor: Never attribute to malice what can be explained by laziness/greed/stupidity. FB has GraphQL stable and doing exactly what they want it to do. Now they can pass it off to a foundation for maintenance and blame without having to pay out of pocket.

GraphQL isn't a system per-say, it's a spec and many tools around it. Putting the spec in a foundation (with a few of those tools) gives the entire community certainty about the direction of the project. Hopefully that spurs more people outside of FB to commit to GraphQL.

The existence of the foundation is orthogonal to FB's internal investment and usage of GraphQL, which was and will continue to be significant.

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Post by marktani »

degyves wrote: post #13

Great. Another solution for an already-solved, already-standardized query API language (SPARQL).

I recommend this talk to see what both technologies can still "learn" from each other - https://youtu.be/LUF7plExdv8. I don't think SPARQL or GraphQL completely replace one another.

Re: Facebook’s GraphQL gets its own open-source foundation

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Post by jahewson »

xrd wrote: post #6

I remember when I was at RealNetworks a long time ago and Microsoft and Real were competing over the future of multimedia languages (SMIL vs HTML+Time). I was on some of the standardization committees and remember being surprised when some of my colleagues suggested that standardization was used by companies like MS to slow down the innovation process (and catch up to faster starts like RealNetworks had made). I wond…

It’s common knowledge in the community that GraphQL already covers Facebook’s use cases and they’re wanting others to take up the reigns for new features, e.g. Apollo. A foundation puts all contributors on an even footing.
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