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Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Re: Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Post by thont »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #11
thont wrote: post #10

"no decent IDEs" because you generally don't need one.

PyCharm is _the_ python IDE. I don't really see what could you possibly lack in it in terms of functionality.

yeah, I agree. Updated with "quotes". Pycharm is pretty good. I use pycharm sometimes, but mostly, I use editor to work with python.

Re: Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Post by jahaja »

There's seem to be a pattern where some people consider simple languages an insult to their intelligence and will fight its adoption with whatever cheap shots that's available. This seems to be such a case.

Re: Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Post by zaarn »

IMO Recommending R as a replacement for Python is like recommending a VW Beetle rigged to explode if it hits more than 2mph as a replacement for a beat-up old family car that is missing two tires.

Python might have it's pain points but R is straight up the most horrendous programming language I've ever used, including Malbolge and Brainfuck in that ranking. The only valid reason people ever present me for using this language is "a lot of other people wrote stuff that is relevant for statistics in R and why throw away all that work?".

Re: Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Post by cf_ »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #11
thont wrote: post #10

"no decent IDEs" because you generally don't need one.

PyCharm is _the_ python IDE. I don't really see what could you possibly lack in it in terms of functionality.

Yeah, it's the problem with that article in general - the author doesn't appear to have decent experience in Python and if she/he really thinks PyCharm is not a decent IDE, then I don't really need to listen to the remaining story.

Re: Why Everyone Should #DeletePytho

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Post by dpwm »

Seems more like an attack on a straw-man Python ecosystem.

Section 1, on there being two versions of Python, is a bit daft. It's been settled: use 3.

Sections 2, 3 and 4 are attacking Python for not behaving in the way R does. For what it's worth, everyone struggles with objects being passed as references at some point or other -- for me it was not realising keyword function arguments' default values are evaluated at definition time, not call time. In any case, the alternatives would not work in Python.

Section 5 is attacking Python for not having RStudio. Personally, as a long term vim user, I've recently tried Spacemacs and found being able to paste to REPL a huge time-saving feature. I'm sure there are plugins for vim that can do this too, it's just it was enabled and discoverable in spacemacs.

I get that R is good for statistics. It's probably better than Python for stats. But Python is a general purpose language that really gets a lot right, which is probably one of the reasons for its growing popularity in Machine Learning.

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