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Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

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Post by lgierth »

mohammedbin wrote: post #2

I'm not even white, nor do I honestly "admire" white people per se. But it seems perfectly okay to say- "kill all white people" on twitter. Only recently Australian parliament voted against a symbolic motion- "It's okay to be white". And nobody seems to raise a finger. I mean fucking white people ruined Asia, sure. But it had nothing to do with their skin color and it was the ancestors. Somehow gab is the bad guy her…

We're talking about more than just saying things here.

11 people have been murdered by a white supremacist, and Gab is the online community for white supremacists / neonazis / anti-semites, one of whom is the murderer, whose actions have been heavily influenced by the specific culture of that community. What does the white-people stuff you allegedly saw "on twitter" have to do with that?

Come on, really?

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

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Post by jbarciauskas »

mohammedbin wrote: post #6
SwellJoe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gab hosts many, many, white supremacists. It has become a dumping ground for every social network's rejects...the people who've been booted from Twitter, reddit, etc (platforms that have been criticized for being slow to remove hate speech and incitement to violence, etc.) have congregated on Gab. This isn't a free speech issue, it is an issue of whether Joyent wants to have responsibility for spreading that kind of…

You're arguing a tangential point. Why is it okay to say - "kill all whites" and the platform let's you be but not okay for a user to say "kill jews" and the platform boots the user and yet gets booted itself.

There is no credible threat against white people as a group. Those who say this generally do so as a way to raise awareness of the very real threats posed by white supremacists, not as a real threat. Taken in context, the distinction is easy to make.

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

#13

Post by gotocake »

Tycho wrote: post #7

The real question is, was there external pressure applied to the hosting company or was this entirely their own decision?

It can’t honestly be news to you that companies don’t exist in a vacuum, right? No decision by a company is going to be made in the absence of consideration for the broader reality in which they exist and seek to do business. To use a hyperbolic example, if Amazon considered having a “kick a puppy, get a discount” sale, the reaction of their shareholders, employees, and customers all factor in.

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

#14

Post by lgierth »

tootahe45 wrote: post #10
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the "external pressure" in this case?

The usual lynch mobs (which FB & Twitter allow on their platform) reported it en masse I'm guessing. This works well for getting conservatives banned on social media because their report systems are somewhat automated, but it also works for domains and email providers. I think they recently got Gab booted off Azure too.

"Lynching" is a terrible term to use for filling out an online abuse form, while there have been 11 people murdered by a white supremacist.

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

#17

Post by mohammedbin »

lgierth wrote: post #11
mohammedbin wrote: post #2

I'm not even white, nor do I honestly "admire" white people per se. But it seems perfectly okay to say- "kill all white people" on twitter. Only recently Australian parliament voted against a symbolic motion- "It's okay to be white". And nobody seems to raise a finger. I mean fucking white people ruined Asia, sure. But it had nothing to do with their skin color and it was the ancestors. Somehow gab is the bad guy her…

We're talking about more than just saying things here. 11 people have been murdered by a white supremacist, and Gab is the online community for white supremacists / neonazis / anti-semites, one of whom is the murderer, whose actions have been heavily influenced by the specific culture of that community. What does the white-people stuff you allegedly saw "on twitter" have to do with that? Come on, really?

I would say to you the same thing I said to your sibling- this is a tangential point.

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

#18

Post by milemi »

mohammedbin wrote: post #6
SwellJoe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gab hosts many, many, white supremacists. It has become a dumping ground for every social network's rejects...the people who've been booted from Twitter, reddit, etc (platforms that have been criticized for being slow to remove hate speech and incitement to violence, etc.) have congregated on Gab. This isn't a free speech issue, it is an issue of whether Joyent wants to have responsibility for spreading that kind of…

You're arguing a tangential point. Why is it okay to say - "kill all whites" and the platform let's you be but not okay for a user to say "kill jews" and the platform boots the user and yet gets booted itself.

Move along sockpuppet.

Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account

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Post by lgierth »

mohammedbin wrote: post #17
lgierth wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about more than just saying things here. 11 people have been murdered by a white supremacist, and Gab is the online community for white supremacists / neonazis / anti-semites, one of whom is the murderer, whose actions have been heavily influenced by the specific culture of that community. What does the white-people stuff you allegedly saw "on twitter" have to do with that? Come on, really?

I would say to you the same thing I said to your sibling- this is a tangential point.

Your whole point is tangential to the story posted. Go away sockpuppet.
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