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The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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I'm a bit irked that a technology of this significance has no videos or demos or actual use cases, just a PR blurb. Is it confidentiality, or is it too early stage? Otherwise X Prize becomes another congratulatory event. This feeling seems to run through the entire site as I click around.

The company itself has a website at http://www.skysource.org/

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source for that?

For instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7WqVMCABg

That's a pretty apples-and-oranges comparison. That's a company making ridiculous promises (look ma, no external power input!) and without any third-party verification. This is a company that makes realistic claims (i.e. has actual numbers for power input per liter of water) and whose performance has been verified by the prize-awarding organization.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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post #11
post #4

I'm a bit irked that a technology of this significance has no videos or demos or actual use cases, just a PR blurb. Is it confidentiality, or is it too early stage? Otherwise X Prize becomes another congratulatory event. This feeling seems to run through the entire site as I click around.

The company itself has a website at http://www.skysource.org/

That's cool. I hope it takes off. Water shortage is a very serious issue in Asia affecting millions and this solution seems too good to be true, so it's exciting. I wonder what the costs are like and can I buy one and donate them to communities in Asia?

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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Remove moisture from the air on any significant scale, and you're depriving someone else of rain, downwind. It's another finite resource. Unforeseen consequences abound.

You know, there are places where water falls out of the air on its own, and if you don't spoil the hell out of the landscape you can even drink it. Give it a rest, humans.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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Here is the website for one of the winners: http://www.skysource.org/

From what I can glean online, the 150 gal/day unit costs $18k usd + $150-$300 in electricity a month if run 24/7 at $0.10Kwh. Ignoring electrical costs, it would take 1581 days to reach $0.02/liter. In that time you would use up $7.5-15k in electricity.

The best estimate I could find is that the average US household uses 240 gal a day.

A friend of mine had to drill a 980 ft well through bedrock. A well this deep requires a much stronger pump and more electricity. They are on their 2nd pump. I should ask them what that all cost.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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2 cents a liter is not close to feasible for any sort of agricultural or industrial use and is an order of magnitude more expensive than residential tap water. Seems like cool tech, but I can't see how this is a solution to any type of water shortage.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7WqVMCABg

That's a pretty apples-and-oranges comparison. That's a company making ridiculous promises (look ma, no external power input!) and without any third-party verification. This is a company that makes realistic claims (i.e. has actual numbers for power input per liter of water) and whose performance has been verified by the prize-awarding organization.

from the same author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3s-xI895zc

I'm not endorsing it, just posting, i have not yet see the video.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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2 cents a liter is not close to feasible for any sort of agricultural or industrial use and is an order of magnitude more expensive than residential tap water. Seems like cool tech, but I can't see how this is a solution to any type of water shortage.

I believe the general idea is to provide drinking water where there is no pre-existing "residential tap water" infrastructure.

Re: The Water Abundance XPrize winner makes water from air

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Does anyone have any details about their actual technical implementation? I'm sure it is interesting. I imagine it doesn't look too similar to a Tatooine moisture farm.

Just google “water from thin air”. This has been done quite often the past 15 years. It’s an overpriced dehumidifier that is working outdoors.

1. They’re in Hawaii. It’s a little humid there. So... yea. Dehumidifiers will collect quite a bit of water in a water abundant area.

2. The places that need clean water typically have low humidity as well. To pull water from air, there needs to be water in it.

Think of this as all those folks that claim they can run their car on water as a fuel. The thing they fail to mention was they were using a battery to split out the hydrogen from the water to use that as fuel. Which is not more efficient than just using the straight up battery.

This is a publicity stunt scam. A real shame too. That money would have been better spent on education or better water infrastructure in places of need.

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