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Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

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Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

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"Experimental Nvidia support has been deprecated since its inception, and has now been removed entirely. Please use nouveau and consider future purchases from GPU vendors that support open source. Other proprietary drivers are also unsupported." How is nouveau doing this days compared to the proprietary drivers of NVidia ?

Apparently, still not well: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nouveau-...

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#12
Congrats to the sway developers on this milestone. i3 is one of the 'killer apps' of the linux ecosystem and the developers of sway are doing god's work by translating i3 for the wayland compositor.

Excited to use this soon if it lands in Debian 10 Buster.

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#13
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I know this is about sway, but I feel I can't pass up this opportunity to profess my undying love for i3. The learning curve is relatively minor for such a slim powerful system I'm truly amazed. I really can't thank the original author(s) enough. RE: Sway, I'm glad they hit this milestone, I have a friend who is using it and he claims it's almost as good, (although he hasn't found a way to do -gaps yet..). Last time…

>Last time I used Wayland/Sway I couldn't get decent font rendering. Has the situation improved?

Wayland and Sway don't touch font rendering as far as I know. There should be no difference between font rendering on X and Wayland. Perhaps you were getting blurred out fonts due to scaling?

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#14

"Experimental Nvidia support has been deprecated since its inception, and has now been removed entirely. Please use nouveau and consider future purchases from GPU vendors that support open source. Other proprietary drivers are also unsupported." How is nouveau doing this days compared to the proprietary drivers of NVidia ?

Imagine a world where Gnome doesn't support any proprietary card drivers, where VLC can't read non open codecs, where libre office can't open doc* files...

Does that seems like a world where FOSS can be successful in ?

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#15

"Experimental Nvidia support has been deprecated since its inception, and has now been removed entirely. Please use nouveau and consider future purchases from GPU vendors that support open source. Other proprietary drivers are also unsupported." How is nouveau doing this days compared to the proprietary drivers of NVidia ?

They have a support matrix on their site[1].

The short of it is, every card has 2d support. There are very few lacking 3d acceleration. Newer cards have flimsy video acceleration. Power management is severely lacking across the board. Specific advanced features are hit or miss. Performance is still behind the proprietary driver in every case I've seen; but for cards from the 200 to 700 series, it's a smaller drop-off than newer cards.

I'd recommend giving it a try and see how it works in your specific use case. I've personally never found a case where nouveau works well enough to drop the Nvidia driver, but I'm usually on the latest or next to latest gen.

[1] - https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#16

"Experimental Nvidia support has been deprecated since its inception, and has now been removed entirely. Please use nouveau and consider future purchases from GPU vendors that support open source. Other proprietary drivers are also unsupported." How is nouveau doing this days compared to the proprietary drivers of NVidia ?

Sway/wlroots maintainer here. The older the card, the better the support. If you're not gaming and you have a 9xx or older card, you should have pretty decent support for a workstation type of deal. If you get as old as 7xx or 6xx you start to have games getting playable.

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#17
Am I seeing this right? Third party screen capture? Practically the only reason I'm still on i3 instead of sway is sharing my screen (as I work from home and do a few video calls a week).

edit: spelling. I am apparently terrible at leaving comments from my phone.

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#18
post #2

I know this is about sway, but I feel I can't pass up this opportunity to profess my undying love for i3. The learning curve is relatively minor for such a slim powerful system I'm truly amazed. I really can't thank the original author(s) enough. RE: Sway, I'm glad they hit this milestone, I have a friend who is using it and he claims it's almost as good, (although he hasn't found a way to do -gaps yet..). Last time…

Sway maintainer here, i3-gaps is fully supported. Can you direct your friend to our support channels? #sway on irc.freenode.net, or open a GitHub issue.

Font rendering on sway is in all respects equivalent to font rendering on i3.

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#19

"Experimental Nvidia support has been deprecated since its inception, and has now been removed entirely. Please use nouveau and consider future purchases from GPU vendors that support open source. Other proprietary drivers are also unsupported." How is nouveau doing this days compared to the proprietary drivers of NVidia ?

What does that exactly mean for Nvidia GPU users?

Re: Sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor – 1.0-beta.1 released

#20

Am I seeing this right? Third party screen capture? Practically the only reason I'm still on i3 instead of sway is sharing my screen (as I work from home and do a few video calls a week). edit: spelling. I am apparently terrible at leaving comments from my phone.

We implemented our half of the equation, but the other half (clients) is still poorly supported. However, you can share Xwayland windows in Chromium.
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