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YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by cinquemb »

AllegedAlec wrote: post #5
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #3

> The proposal will force platforms, like YouTube, to prioritize content from a small number of large companies. That's orthogonal to what the Article 13 really says. If anything, it will "force" the platforms to prioritize original content over remakes.

It's orthogonal to the intention, perhaps. However, in implementation, it's much easier to make a few deals with large companies, rather than to ensure that each of the tens of millions of nobodies with 10 subscribers completely adheres to the letter of the law.

Part of me just thinks this will be bad for youtube in the long run, not content creators as they (and their audience) will find other outlets.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

AllegedAlec wrote: post #5
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #3

> The proposal will force platforms, like YouTube, to prioritize content from a small number of large companies. That's orthogonal to what the Article 13 really says. If anything, it will "force" the platforms to prioritize original content over remakes.

It's orthogonal to the intention, perhaps. However, in implementation, it's much easier to make a few deals with large companies, rather than to ensure that each of the tens of millions of nobodies with 10 subscribers completely adheres to the letter of the law.

All the better - it would be great if YT finally started to have some serious competition.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by nkkollaw »

The EU has passed this law so that it can be there waiting to be used to shut down dissidents.

It doesn't make sense otherwise.

These are smart people. With mostly bad ideas IMHO, but smart. They know what they're doing. This law has too many issues to be good for regular people.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by AllegedAlec »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #8

This is even better: > The burden of copyright proof will be too high for most independent creators to instantly demonstrate. If I record a video, and YT bans it because their faulty algorithm triggered a false alarm, how exactly the "burden of copyright proof" should be "too high" for me? First of all, they should prove that someone else owns the copyright. If they're mistaken - because of copyright trolls or faulty…

> First of all, they should prove that someone else own the copyright. If they're mistaken - because of copyright trolls or faulty algorithms - it should be their burden, not the authors'.

That's rather optimistic; it's not a court of law.

According to the rules as written, Youtube is responsible for not taking down the content. If they do not take down content which is actually copyrighted by someone else, they are the ones getting huge fines. Of course they'd err on the side of caution in this case.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by fsloth »

vanderZwan wrote: post #4

Part of me hopes that this mess will at least have the positive side-effect of more people embracing copyleft practices, but I doubt it will happen.

Maybe there will be youtube "wrapper publisher" services that cater for indie producers by handling all the copyright management for them for a minimal fee?

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by AllegedAlec »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #12
AllegedAlec wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's orthogonal to the intention, perhaps. However, in implementation, it's much easier to make a few deals with large companies, rather than to ensure that each of the tens of millions of nobodies with 10 subscribers completely adheres to the letter of the law.

All the better - it would be great if YT finally started to have some serious competition.

How would this lead to competition? Any competition would have exactly the same problems.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by cinquemb »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #12
AllegedAlec wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's orthogonal to the intention, perhaps. However, in implementation, it's much easier to make a few deals with large companies, rather than to ensure that each of the tens of millions of nobodies with 10 subscribers completely adheres to the letter of the law.

All the better - it would be great if YT finally started to have some serious competition.

The only competition I see for sites like YT are things like peertube in the long run, not necessarily a win for EU regulators or YT.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by de_watcher »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #12
AllegedAlec wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's orthogonal to the intention, perhaps. However, in implementation, it's much easier to make a few deals with large companies, rather than to ensure that each of the tens of millions of nobodies with 10 subscribers completely adheres to the letter of the law.

All the better - it would be great if YT finally started to have some serious competition.

YT has become really bad for gamers for example, so now it's twitch+patreon+discord.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by Moru »

nkkollaw wrote: post #10
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #3

> The proposal will force platforms, like YouTube, to prioritize content from a small number of large companies. That's orthogonal to what the Article 13 really says. If anything, it will "force" the platforms to prioritize original content over remakes.

Big companies can just make deals and use whatever they want. Independent content creators don't have the resources to go to EMI and cut a deal for using their music as soundtrack for their videos. In addition, for a big company being sued is part of business, while for a regular guy it can mean bankruptcy. Taking the risk of using other people's stuff--even if it should obviously be considered fair use--might be too…

Maybe the royalty free music will get a well deserved upswing? It can be very cheap to buy non-exclusive music to put on your videos if that is what you need. And less exposure for the EMI-branded music in the process. Win win.

Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators

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Post by ilikerashers »

josefresco wrote: post #6

"YouTube has already invested more than $60 million into its Content ID system" That actually seems low to me, given we're talking about numbers (revenue, users) in the billions.

I was surprised when the best way to watch UFC 229 (PPV) was simply typing it into YouTube and watching full HD quality. YouTube won't do anything unless government action forces them to.
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