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This seemingly trenchant observation ignores how much AWS (and Apple) have to lose in all their markets if it turns out they are insistently, loudly, publicly lying to everyone, including their shareholders and congress.
AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
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Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#12Call me a cynic, but the more these aholes call for a retraction the more I feel the story has legs. Even if it isn't true it's very plausibility is what scares them shitless.
The main issue is that most of their stuff is manufactured in China, they see themselves taking a huge hit in profitability if the US all the sudden forced them to only do stuff in the US because of security.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#13An easy way Bloomberg could support their story: allow one or more of their "senior insider" sources at Apple/Amazon to speak with another outlet (AP, NYT, whoever) who agrees to maintain their anonymity.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#14I really have little doubt that the Chinese are integrating their spy chips into computer hardware going to the big four or even the pentagon. It's probably how they stole the designs to the f-35[you know that plane that costs over a trillion dollars to develop]. It would catastrophic if apple knew or even acknowledges the possibility of the Chinese having a backdoor into their servers and would result in massive shi…
While I'm sure there's all sorts of technological approaches in use, the Snowden incident showed a much easier method of stealing secrets.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#15Call me a cynic, but the more these aholes call for a retraction the more I feel the story has legs. Even if it isn't true it's very plausibility is what scares them shitless.
The main issue is that most of their stuff is manufactured in China, they see themselves taking a huge hit in profitability if the US all the sudden forced them to only do stuff in the US because of security.
Yup. Their entire business success, their 1 trillion dolar story, all their "shareholder value" can be summed up by:
"we don't build anything, the Chinese build it for us".
Time to pay the piper.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#16There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibility in tech journalism by the end of the year, and a good chance they may end up stuck in a courtroom trying to defend the decision to run this piece (on the front page, no less) for a long, long time.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#17I really have little doubt that the Chinese are integrating their spy chips into computer hardware going to the big four or even the pentagon. It's probably how they stole the designs to the f-35[you know that plane that costs over a trillion dollars to develop]. It would catastrophic if apple knew or even acknowledges the possibility of the Chinese having a backdoor into their servers and would result in massive shi…
> how they stole the designs to the f-35
Any comprehensive report of this?
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#18Why did these demands for retraction take so long?
They quadruple-checked all their audits to make sure they were actually accurate in saying "nothing here".
Precisely. Worst thing would be to realize later you overlooked something and have to issue a correction.
And a story with this many moving pieces, you’ve got a lot of ground to cover. It’s so very hard to prove the absence of something.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
#19I really have little doubt that the Chinese are integrating their spy chips into computer hardware going to the big four or even the pentagon. It's probably how they stole the designs to the f-35[you know that plane that costs over a trillion dollars to develop]. It would catastrophic if apple knew or even acknowledges the possibility of the Chinese having a backdoor into their servers and would result in massive shi…
While I'm sure there's all sorts of technological approaches in use, the Snowden incident showed a much easier method of stealing secrets.
Easier != only.
Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story
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Are you suggesting both apple and amazon are covering up the truth?
Not just covering up the truth. Doing so knowing that getting caught would open them up to a huge public backlash and possibly legal culpability, even though if Bloomberg is correct about 30 companies are affected, the government knows all abou it, and dozens of Apple, AWS and other insiders and experts are actively talking to Bloomberg and sharing details left right and centre already.
How does anybody think Apple and AWS would calculate they could get away with lying like this, when Bloomberg says it’s already widely known and widely being leaked? So where are all these insiders that are blabbing? How come they’re not talking to any other journalists? What about the security experts Bloomberg says are also in on it and willing to talk?
If Bloomberg is right, this story should be wide open by now. Instead ....nothing. Not a single scrap of corroborating evidence for this supposedly widely known and broadly leaked issue.