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Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by addicted »

mercer wrote: post #10
liveoneggs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought dragging a "card" with the mouse was some kind of web-demo joke before seeing people expected to actually perform the action multiple times per day.

I use Trello quite a bit for various clients and I love the visual/tactile nature of dragging cards. I wouldn't use it for a massive number of support tickets or the like, but it's great for the slightly higher-level stuff (ongoing feature work, etc.).

Agreed. Trello is great for high level items, or for breaking down a specific project. It seems much more cumbersome for things in the middle where you are trying to focus on many different projects at a deeper level.

My wishlist for Trello would be a parallel spreadsheet like UI that would make it easy to view and modify details of a large number of different cards in 1 go.

Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by swozey »

te_chris wrote: post #8

I highly recommend clubhouse. It's like Jira, but won't make you break out in fits of rage. http://clubhouse.io/

They should offer a single user free plan. If I start using these tools for my own personal projects it's a lot easier for me to bring it up to others because I've had months/years of experience using it myself.

Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by thedancollins »

We used Jira for a year doing a "semi-Scrum" development framework ... you know the one where you throw Agile terms around like you have any idea what they mean ... it went well enough but I and my lead engineer wound up going to Scrum Master training. We left Jira and went to Axosoft. Each had pros and cons of course. Pro-tip: the best software in the world will not help if your business users do not understand anything but waterfall methodology.

Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by rbanffy »

dbingham wrote: post #5

Well, that's fun. The linked blog post doesn't seem to exist. I can find no mention of this new release on Jira's blog anywhere. Plus, there's no release date for these features (which seem like desperately needed improvements) anywhere. Matches my experience with Jira so far. Our PM team recently requested we move from Waffle to Jira, since Waffle has no backlog management and Github's is lacking from a PM point of…

> Well, that's fun. The linked blog post doesn't seem to exist. I can find no mention of this new release on Jira's blog anywhere. Plus, there's no release date for these features (which seem like desperately needed improvements) anywhere. Matches my experience with Jira so far.

It feels like Venturebeat messed up a news embargo. My bet is that it'll be announced shortly.

Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by dbingham »

Karunamon wrote: post #9
dbingham wrote: post #5

Well, that's fun. The linked blog post doesn't seem to exist. I can find no mention of this new release on Jira's blog anywhere. Plus, there's no release date for these features (which seem like desperately needed improvements) anywhere. Matches my experience with Jira so far. Our PM team recently requested we move from Waffle to Jira, since Waffle has no backlog management and Github's is lacking from a PM point of…

> The data model is non-sensical (everything is shared between projects - if you create a status, a field, an issue type, it becomes the one true object shared by everyone) No, that's not the case. If you create any of those new objects, you have to explicitly add it to what you want it to be associated with. New fields have to be added to screens and schemes, new issue types associated with issue type schemes and th…

Have you ever used waffle or something like it? Waffle attaches PRs as little rows underneath the primary card. On the PR row you have a one click link to pop open the PR in a new tab, an indicator of each review on the PR (and its status - whether there are new comments etc), an indicator of the build status and the ability to assign someone to the individual PR as opposed to the card as a whole.

As a developer lead, these features are extraordinarily useful. I can see the exact state of the card, and all its attached PRs across multiple repos, at a glance. I can jump into any of the PRs to contribute comments, update a review, make a review. I can make use of the PR assignment to assign different people to different parts of the overarching card (assign a different dev to the infrastructure PR, than for the front end PR, for instance) or to assign people to do the review while leaving the executing dev on the primary card.

It's a well designed UX that's trying to be exactly one thing: a highly functioning kanban board tightly integrated with Github. And it shows what good UX design can accomplish.

It's not perfect, but it's miles better than Jira and I'm feeling its lack having to move from Waffle to Jira.

To respond to the first point, I'm reacting to the fact that everything exists in common and must be associated rather than simply created. If someone's created a "Story Points" field already on another project, that's the one true "Story Points" field. If I want a different one for my project, I have to name it something else. And if other people have created a bunch of fields, you can quickly find yourself swimming in a mess.

Re: Atlassian debuts new Jira Software Cloud with timeline view, configuration flow

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Post by s1mon »

addicted wrote: post #13
mercer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Trello quite a bit for various clients and I love the visual/tactile nature of dragging cards. I wouldn't use it for a massive number of support tickets or the like, but it's great for the slightly higher-level stuff (ongoing feature work, etc.).

Agreed. Trello is great for high level items, or for breaking down a specific project. It seems much more cumbersome for things in the middle where you are trying to focus on many different projects at a deeper level. My wishlist for Trello would be a parallel spreadsheet like UI that would make it easy to view and modify details of a large number of different cards in 1 go.

While I like the UX of Trello in general more, Smartsheet has a spreadsheet view and more.
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