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Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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Everything has potential to cause issues, won't stop progress. Let's not act like they are ignoring this.

Do users have the ability to stop updates without repercussions? Is it really a choice that cannot be overridden by the update? If X declares war on California, will California shutdown every Tesla in X? Will I be allowed to export my Tesla in 15 years to whatever developing country I like?

Will my car be taken over and kill me?

Will other people's cars be taken over and kill me?

Will my car be taken over and be used to drive me to someone who will harm me?

These are life or death concerns and let's not act like they're not ignoring this.

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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Like what? Other car manufactures already do remote software updates.

People's safety isn't something to be iterated. Any security patch will already come too late -- when it comes to cars, it must not have security problems to begin with. The cybersecurity model just isn't safe for this. It's up to them to fix this, not me.

Tesla absolutely launched their over-the-air capabilities without sufficient planning. If you look at the early Keen Labs presentations[0] it's insane that it was launched the way it was. At least they added code signing later...

[0] https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-17/thursday/us-17-Nie-Free-...

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do users have the ability to stop updates without repercussions? Is it really a choice that cannot be overridden by the update? If X declares war on California, will California shutdown every Tesla in X? Will I be allowed to export my Tesla in 15 years to whatever developing country I like?

Will my car be taken over and kill me? Will other people's cars be taken over and kill me? Will my car be taken over and be used to drive me to someone who will harm me? These are life or death concerns and let's not act like they're not ignoring this.

1. No it wont, please show me where this is happening. 2. No it wont, please show me where this is happening. 3. No it wont, please show me where this is happening.

There's concerns and then crazy questions and comments.

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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Good on them for working hard to get affiliate points for a brand new Tesla. It took them working their butts off to get one. I found the article to be full of unbiased information and also more personal info in the "ELECTREK’S TAKE" section.

Good on you that you found value in the article, but I found it to be biased in favor of Tesla, and also find it sleazy that they didn't disclose their affiliation to Tesla.

Their participation in the affiliate scheme is very often mentioned in the articles.

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything has potential to cause issues, won't stop progress. Let's not act like they are ignoring this.

Do users have the ability to stop updates without repercussions? Is it really a choice that cannot be overridden by the update? If X declares war on California, will California shutdown every Tesla in X? Will I be allowed to export my Tesla in 15 years to whatever developing country I like?

What?

Did you think before you typed because 2 of those questions have nothing to do with this.

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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post #5

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Everything has potential to cause issues, won't stop progress. Let's not act like they are ignoring this.

Everything has potential to cause issues, and that's not reason to dismiss life or death concerns. What are they doing about it that's effective? They are ignoring this.

No one is dismissing life or death concerns they are dismissing your comments.

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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post #12

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Will my car be taken over and kill me? Will other people's cars be taken over and kill me? Will my car be taken over and be used to drive me to someone who will harm me? These are life or death concerns and let's not act like they're not ignoring this.

1. No it wont, please show me where this is happening. 2. No it wont, please show me where this is happening. 3. No it wont, please show me where this is happening. There's concerns and then crazy questions and comments.

So no one should try to prevent security flaws because that particular flaw hasn't happened and only fix them when they do?

The question shouldn't be "has it happened." The question should be how realistic is the chance of this happening in the future?

Re: Tesla deploys massive new Autopilot neural net in v9

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The original forum post this article is about has better info IMO: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/neural-networks.1014...

Whoa back up - he claims it was built off Inception V1? Truly impressive if that's the case...

Care to expand on that?
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